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Post Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:03 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:The auction already ended; did he have a 3-day auction to cut in front of the other 51.5 auctions?  Did he steal your scan, steal your text, and sell the first 51.5 on eBay?


Damn, sure looks like it!

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:57 pm 
 

On a random note: had a not entirely fun experience buying items off of abcdex.

While some items were truly in excellent condition, others were in less so -- and not in manners that were capable of having occurred during shipping.

Sent an email to him, and got back a reply about how I should be happy because I paid significantly less than the going rate for the items, thereby completely missing the point that I wouldn't have even bid had I known the true extent of the damage. :roll:

  


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:49 pm 
 

Something seems a little fishy :scratch:



http://cgi.ebay.com/Tractics-TSR-2nd-Pr ... dZViewItem


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:56 am 
 

Hey look, its dandplayer selling yet another copy of The Condo of Dr. Demento:




** expired/removed eBay auction **




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Post Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:08 am 
 

IttyBitty wrote:Something seems a little fishy :scratch:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


It's Troll and Toad...what else would you expect?  The description for the item is grossly misleading.  You could get a decent copy or a hunk of shit...it's a crapshoot.  T&T did have two copies of the wood-grain Tractics up (this one has been in his store for several months; the other had a $150 BIN) and the more expensive one either sold or was pulled.

If you skim through his feedback (which is starting to look as bad as cougarrinards) you will notice the same complaints over and over:

not very accurate with condition of product...

Incredibly misleading auction. false description and false pics. NO response

bad condition, very high shipping costs


So not only does Troll & Toad mislead their customers on condition of items and shipping costs but it is also very apparent that they dont care much about their customers satisfaction because they apparently have a problem with communication as well:

CUSTOMER SERVICE NON-EXISTANT. PAYPAL COMPLAINT NEEDED TO GET SELLER TO RESPOND.

REQUIRED FORMAL PAYPAL COMPLAINT TO GET SELLER TO COMMUNICATE.




As scummy as cougarrinard is at least he communicates with his customers.  :roll:


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:17 am 
 

I asked about the two Tractics boxes from Troll and Toad after losing the last one up for auction.  The $150 sounded like a nice set and the cheaper one is a bit trashed.

The one question that I never did get resolved with them is why is it a 2nd TSR printing?  I'm not sure if the woodgrains with GG books is a 1st and then all TSR books is a 2nd or if they have a bad stock photo and this is really a cream coloured box.  The nicer set sold so I left it at that.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:43 pm 
 

Not sure if I should put this here, but it seems as good a place as any:



http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0148235157



Not bad feedback rating, not bad prices...  Now scroll down, and take a gander at the lower-right image with the PayPal seal on it.



* You must accumulate a combined total of at least $10 in purchases.
Until these conditions are met, you will not be shipped. After 30 days you will be issued a $5 cancellation fee.




So, if the item doesn't sell for as much as they'd like, and you don't want to buy anything else, they still get $5 and keep the item. I mean, how hard is it to list a shipping price? :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:08 pm 
 

I don't want to be shipped anyway. I'd want my item shipped.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:00 pm 
 

serleran wrote:I don't want to be shipped anyway. I'd want my item shipped.


And that is the loop hole around it. Besides, I do not think that the authorities view extortion to kindly.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:07 pm 
 

g026r wrote:Not sure if I should put this here, but it seems as good a place as any:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


Not bad feedback rating, not bad prices...  Now scroll down, and take a gander at the lower-right image with the PayPal seal on it.



So, if the item doesn't sell for as much as they'd like, and you don't want to buy anything else, they still get $5 and keep the item. I mean, how hard is it to list a shipping price? :roll:




I've had nothing but good experiences with this store. I also think that this means they send you $5 (Don't know I always manage to find more than $10 a month to spend on their stuff).

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:15 am 
 

I bought from Sci-Fi City when they were first online...they were the original "gougers" on shipping, as far as my own experiences. If I recall correctly, they were one of the first eBay auctioneers I came across that said "$10 or $15 shipping on the first item" - regardless of weight.

No problems with shipping, but my God, they made more from me on shipping than they did on the item itself.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:31 am 
 

Center_Stage_Hobbies wrote:I bought from Sci-Fi City when they were first online...they were the original "gougers" on shipping, as far as my own experiences. If I recall correctly, they were one of the first eBay auctioneers I came across that said "$10 or $15 shipping on the first item" - regardless of weight.

No problems with shipping, but my God, they made more from me on shipping than they did on the item itself.


That is a hard policy to keep up with in mail order. They probably did it to streamline things. I say that because now they offer free shipping on everything, (I do the same thing myself) and it really pays off. Not only with sales, but it makes buyers much happier about the transaction and makes the process incredibly easy (at least for me).

I don't think they belong in the Shady Dealers thread, but that's just my experience.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:31 am 
 

Center_Stage_Hobbies wrote:I bought from Sci-Fi City when they were first online...they were the original "gougers" on shipping, as far as my own experiences. If I recall correctly, they were one of the first eBay auctioneers I came across that said "$10 or $15 shipping on the first item" - regardless of weight.

No problems with shipping, but my God, they made more from me on shipping than they did on the item itself.


That is a hard policy to keep up with in mail order. They probably did it to streamline things. I say that because now they offer free shipping on everything, (I do the same thing myself) and it really pays off. Not only with sales, but it makes buyers much happier about the transaction and makes the process incredibly easy (at least for me).

I don't think they belong in the Shady Dealers thread, but that's just my experience.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:36 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:I don't think they belong in the Shady Dealers thread, but that's just my experience.


I have no experience with them.  As I said when I posted: not sure if it was the best place for it, but had no idea where else to stick it.  If someone wants to split this off into its own thread, go right ahead.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:22 am 
 

Center_Stage_Hobbies wrote: my God, they made more from me on shipping than they did on the item itself.


That's pretty much the standard on Ebay right now.

It has gotten so bad that I shop shipping prices first before actual price.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:39 pm 
 

That's pretty much the standard on Ebay right now.

It has gotten so bad that I shop shipping prices first before actual price.


That's true.  Many ebay sellers operate a shipping industry.  They don't care what they are selling as long as they can profit from the shipping charges.  

Of course you can argue that ebay/paypal fees and shipping materials fees dictate the need for shipping profits.  It's not hard to accrue $3-$4 in listing, final value and paypal fees and packaging costs.  A seller has to account for that somehow.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:57 pm 
 

I can deal with $2-$3 tacked onto the shipping fees.  I understand that there are extra costs beyond paying the post office to move the item around.  On the other hand, it doesn't cost $20 to ship one of the B-series modules.

I've personally gotten a little pissy lately, and if I get something shipped that has one of the online labels with postage hidden, then I've been rating low on the shipping costs come feedback time.  The fact that that's even an option (let alone the default one) is practically condoning the practice. :roll:

(The exception being if it shows up in a flat rate box/envelope -- I know the costs of those by heart practically, and can rate on costs charged vs. actual cost accurately.)

  


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:45 pm 
 

Dont't you absolutely hate it when you shill your own auction and end up winning it?



Current auction:




** expired/removed eBay auction **




Recently completed auction(a week ago exactly):




** expired/removed eBay auction **




Seller is from Kentucky and surprisingly the buyer is too:



eBay listings



Freaking moron even had the audacity to leave feedback for the auction saying the buyer "paid":





http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback



All that, but the seller is so lazy he relisted the auction that listed previously which still includes the updates from the first auction.  :roll: Busted....


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