Mars wrote:People lose money on Ebay everyday. They buy an item for one price from a store then decide to sell it on Ebay for less money.
No, that is not what is being said. What is being said is that if you have all of these high costs, you are required by Ebay to put them into the starting price of your auction. There are certain things you are allowed to charge for shipping and handling. Gas and hourly wage are not included in this list.
I don't think we missed it. I think you have completely miss it. NONE OF THESE FEES ARE ALLOWED BY EBAY! Does it help if I put things in capitals? Read the examples. Charging $8 more than the actual postage cost is a violation!
Still waiting on your eBay ID, by the way. I mean, it's a fair question, don't you think? Given that you post your rants on every thread here that involves eBay in any way, I'd love to see all this expertise in action. So ... what's your user ID?
If you really don't think your listing fees are excessive, why don't you prove it. All it will cost you is 25 cents. List an auction on Ebay for some book you want to sell and state that the handling will be $200 since you are a lawyer and need to drive 5 hours to post it. I will report it as excessive fees and Ebay will then decide. If it doesn't get cancelled, we'll know Ebay's ruling.
It just hit me, though: once again, you won. You're living the troll's dream of dividing and disrupting the community ... and we keep falling for it. There's no way you even remotely believe more than 10 percent of the sh*t you type here, but we keep taking you seriously. More fools we.
Looking that the eBay listing for the ID that appears to be yours raises some confusion as to where you are located. Vancouver, BC Canada or Plano TX. Which one is it? All the discussion about what is available as far as shipping boxes, and postal pickup is moot if you actually live in Canada.
Sea-to-sky-games wrote:even if it went against the grain every now and then
Radovarl wrote:I'm not offended, I just don't understand why these debates (or whatever you'd like to call them) become so personal. I don't know anyone here all that well, but why not just argue in a civil fashion, without everyone's talk of trolls and such? I wouldn't mind being involved in these discussions, but the way you guys seem to operate I just feel like staying away.
dcas wrote:I personally don't have an issue with someone charging hundreds of dollars in handling fees as long as he's up front about it. I just won't bid on the auction. I don't see any reason to go crusading about it.
Mars wrote:Although it would be nice if the seller was upfront with stuff like this, many sellers are not. So what happens if it is not mentioned, you win the auction and the seller says it will be $210 for your $10 book because ... There should be nothing wrong with this since all $200 of the fees are reasonable handling costs.
killjoy32 wrote:StS: listen chummer. I work for a law firm and i am an accountant ok? so basically, i deal with the figures of EVERYTHING that goes on in my firm, so i count myself pretty reasonably qualified to act on what i know. Not only that, i have also done it pretty well for like 20 years.let me tell you this. your lawyer comments are utter rubbish. i won't go into details as they are totally unnecessary. back to the point at hand.if you bid on something and the handling fee is not listed, then if you havent asked beforehand, expect the worst because its your own fault. if i fee is listed, you know up front and it is your choice either way, whether you go for it or not. if i am charged a $13 handling fee to have a GPM item that costs $10 to send and it is a ONE SHEET PIECE OF PAPER, then you can bet your ass that i am gonna jump up and down like a madman, as that is just ludicrous.if someone is fair, i am happy and i will return and deal again.i buy and sell and like to think i have a pretty good reputation. i earn this by being fair to ppl i deal with. sure. i could increase things and milk it for all its worth and maybe make a little more....but thats not my way. i like satisfaction and repeat biz. its good for me and its good for the punter. THATS how business should be and the whole system would work a lot better.Now i really dont like dragging myself into these things, so StS, please man, stop trying to disrupt everything all the time with such stupid comments ok?keep it simple man.Al
dcas wrote:If they were "reasonable," then the seller would have been up front about them. The fact that he was not is enough evidence that they are not "reasonable."I don't buy or sell much on eBay, but ISTM that there are ways to address such issues.
JohnGaunt wrote:Free, but they can only be used for shipping Priority Mail. They can not be used or re-used for any other type of mail. Yes, people use them as cardboard liners and re-use them to ship packages, but all that is illegal.One eager postal clerk opened up my Media Mail package because it looked as if I were using bits of a Priority Mail box. Fortunately I was not, but then I couldn't remember if what the item was ---a game or a magazine or what, so I got ripped-off on postage.As a result of the USPS' determination to make me not use or re-use boxes, I have found that unused Priority Mail boxes are good for drying stripped minis, separating items, and anything else that requires a stiff piece of cardboard.
Mars wrote:I don't think disclosure should be a factor in deciding whether fees are reasonable or not.
By ways of address the issue, do you mean a sack of doorknobs?
Mars wrote:Although it would be nice if the seller was upfront with stuff like this, many sellers are not. So what happens if it is not mentioned, you win the auction and the seller says it will be $210 for your $10 book because ... There should be nothing wrong with this since all $200 of the fees are reasonable handling costs.The trouble with asking Ebay about anything is they won't give you any kind of firm answer unless they are forced into it. In this case they will just send you off to their policy pages. If you post an auction with such handling fees, then you are forcing Ebay to make a decision on it.