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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:46 pm 
 

Only problem with the sale of such manuscripts as the Dungeon Hobby Shop Dungeon.....

Now a famous piece of RPG work is available for only one person to enjoy.  Auctions are quicker, but a pdf of the original might net the same amount of money for the game legend in question.  IF the pdfs were available at a reachable price, I know I'd be buying them.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:23 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:Only problem with the sale of such manuscripts as the Dungeon Hobby Shop Dungeon.....

Now a famous piece of RPG work is available for only one person to enjoy.  Auctions are quicker, but a pdf of the original might net the same amount of money for the game legend in question.  IF the pdfs were available at a reachable price, I know I'd be buying them.


If Ernie and Terry want to publish the dungeon, I'm sure PPP would be happy to slot it into the publishing schedule :D


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:21 pm 
 

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If Ernie and Terry want to publish the dungeon, I'm sure PPP would be happy to slot it into the publishing schedule :D


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:14 pm 
 

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We can only hope. I can afford to spend the equivalent of a mortgage payment on a gaming item.  :?


neat thought though, one of those things that even in pdf would take up a shelf ;)


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:13 am 
 

I would want a pdf of the original, stained pages.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:03 am 
 

grodog wrote:
If Ernie and Terry want to publish the dungeon, I'm sure PPP would be happy to slot it into the publishing schedule :D

With most dungeons, that would be an ideal solution, but did you look at the map of the lowest level?  8O I don't think a huge thing like that could be reproduced to be profitable. Or maybe I am wrong (and then the second question is: did Ernie keep a photocopy? Or absent that, would TFM be kind enough to allow a copy to be made for publication?).

Regardless, one exciting possibility of unearthing treasures like this is an opportunity to publish them, especially for us non-collector types.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:11 am 
 

Melan wrote:With most dungeons, that would be an ideal solution, but did you look at the map of the lowest level?  8O I don't think a huge thing like that could be reproduced to be profitable. Or maybe I am wrong (and then the second question is: did Ernie keep a photocopy? Or absent that, would TFM be kind enough to allow a copy to be made for publication?).


The map for Bottle City is 17"x22" and printers can handle much larger sizes if necessary (the original Greyhawk folio maps were both 36"x48").


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:44 am 
 

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I am surprised that this one did not sell for more.  I think that thefantasymuseum got a steal at $1200+.





Indeed.  Had I been around for it, the price would have been quite a bit higher.   :D



What an incredible item!


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:09 pm 
 

Melan wrote:and then the second question is: did Ernie keep a photocopy?

Paul (The Collector's Trove) generally makes an archive copy of the items he sells.



  


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:54 pm 
 

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bombadil wrote:Indeed.  Had I been around for it, the price would have been quite a bit higher.   :D

What an incredible item!


Well now Stephen, you'll have to be saving your pennies for a certain item coming up at the end of April now won't you? 8)

I do agree with your observation, an incredible item.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:00 pm 
 

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dcas wrote:Paul (The Collector's Trove) generally makes an archive copy of the items he sells.


That is correct, unless the seller decides against it, such as the Steve Marsh auction and Tim Jiardini auction.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:56 pm 
 

The Collector's Trove wrote:Well now Stephen, you'll have to be saving your pennies for a certain item coming up at the end of April now won't you? 8)



Calendar marked...proceeding with thumb-twiddling.   :D


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:06 am 
 

*Shrugs*

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:01 pm 
 

Thanks Paul! It arrived safely and is being framed for display in my library this evening. I was delighted to win this so cheaply. It is a great addition to the collection. My wife is a little miffed that I paid that amount for some that is only 12 x 9 though. I tried to explain the historical and collector value of the piece and the signatures, but she does not get it.  Oh well, I love her anyway!!!



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Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:53 pm 
 

pleveich wrote:Thanks Paul! It arrived safely and is being framed for display in my library this evening. I was delighted to win this so cheaply. It is a great addition to the collection. My wife is a little miffed that I paid that amount for some that is only 12 x 9 though. I tried to explain the historical and collector value of the piece and the signatures, but she does not get it.  Oh well, I love her anyway!!!

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I just always point out that, for example, I had to pay $81 for it because someone else was convinced it was worth $80.  In other words the item could be immediately resold for your money back, if not a small profit.



Note - this point is best made as you're going out the door, so that her question of "So why don't you sell it?" bounces harmlessly away.   :lol:

  

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:12 am 
 

pleveich wrote:Thanks Paul! It arrived safely and is being framed for display in my library this evening. I was delighted to win this so cheaply. It is a great addition to the collection. My wife is a little miffed that I paid that amount for some that is only 12 x 9 though. I tried to explain the historical and collector value of the piece and the signatures, but she does not get it.  Oh well, I love her anyway!!!

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The item in question is easily worth $80 and is likely to get more valuable in the future.  Frame that baby!


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:50 am 
 

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I just always point out that, for example, I had to pay $81 for it because someone else was convinced it was worth $80.  In other words the item could be immediately resold for your money back, if not a small profit.

Note - this point is best made as you're going out the door, so that her question of "So why don't you sell it?" bounces harmlessly away.   :lol:


Well, fortunately she has not asked me to resell it. I'm afraid that would invoke a disagreement of no small proportions. She is actually very good about not wanting me to resell stuff I have that would fetch a pretty penny like the error DMG which I could easily sell for a ton and a couple other one-of-a-kind D&D pieces I was lucky enough to acquire. All I have to do is get this stuff in the door and it is safe. She was even nice enough to grant me a small allowance to take to GenCon this year.

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The item in question is easily worth $80 and is likely to get more valuable in the future.  Frame that baby!


It is already framed and hanging above my modest D&D collection in the library. I was quite clever with it by having her decide the best spot to hang it up to give her a sense of ownership in it. I think she is warming up to my collecting habits - at least a little.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:50 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:Only problem with the sale of such manuscripts as the Dungeon Hobby Shop Dungeon.....

Now a famous piece of RPG work is available for only one person to enjoy.  Auctions are quicker, but a pdf of the original might net the same amount of money for the game legend in question.  IF the pdfs were available at a reachable price, I know I'd be buying them.

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That is tantamount to copyright infringement. I would be super pissed if I paid a premium for a unique object and the seller offered PDF's of it. It is the prerogative of the owner of the piece to sell PDF's.


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Post Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:31 am 
 

It wouldn't be copyright infringement if the seller were the copyright holder. Besides, is it not the same as Bottle City going to print after Mike spent $3600 of the original map and notes? I would consider it fair game for a seller to sell PDFs having already sold the original, just as I wasn't pissed when a second photocopy of City of the Revenant was put up for sale six months after I paid $600 for my copy. It is the seller's IP to do with as he sees fit, and I'm sure Paul would honour any request for refund if the buyer were unhappy with future developements, as would the IP owner.


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