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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:04 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:Ok, I'm not senile.  Here's what Troll & Toad had to say in their own words a while back:

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Does anyone really believe the Tsojconth sold for that much, now?  Neat marketing trick, I must admit.  You don't have to be a bclarkie to figure this one out.


Thanks D, I am actually glad that you posted that link.  I forgot to report them again for those actions. I have now done so. :wink:


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:15 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:I am really glad you worked that out for him. I really love how you try to shoe horn someone else's thoughts into to your own faulty economic theories on buying, selling & collecting.


Brian, Mike says that if someone were to offer him $3,000 for it, he would sell. How is that different from what STS wrote?

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:If his intent isn't to sell it, why list it on his site? To display his ownership of it?


dragonstrove wrote:I wasn't really looking to sell them, but I wanted to populate the "collector's area" of my web site.


Sea-to-sky-games wrote:I'm sure he wouldn't be disappointed if someone took him up on the offer.


dragonstrove wrote:So I figured out what it would take for me to part with them, and if someone wants to pay it, they are out of here.


See the parallels here?



  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:37 pm 
 

dcas wrote:
See the parallels here?


Actually no.  As a matter of fact STS is clearly trying to say in his post:

If his intent isn't to sell it, why list it on his site? To display his ownership of it?


That because it is listed on his site that he is obviously trying to sell it. When you look at Michael's post here, he is clearly not trying to sell it:

dragonstrove wrote:Look, these are my own private copies. I wasn't really looking to sell them, but I wanted to populate the "collector's area" of my web site.


Another thing that needs to be said is that Michael made that post here well over 2 years ago, back when the going rate for an Inverness was around $800.  If he would have sold the item at that time  for that much, he could have turned around and bought two more copies for himself and pocketed an extra $1400, who wouldn't do that?  I would happily sell my new 1st print Woody for between $12,000 & $15,000 if someone was actually dumb enough to give it to me.   That doesn't mean that is he or I believe that is how people should position their whole business model on that type of strategy.  :?  As a matter of fact looking at the rest of his stuff he has for sale on his site, he clearly doesn't work that way either.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:38 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:42 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:45 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:When you advertise a sale of something for $5 (or if you want to put in the context of auctions, the minimum expected bid price), you are implicitly stating that you are indifferent between taking the $5 (and having no module) and keeping the module. I suppose you could argue that most sellers are irrational, so my comments wouldn't relate to those people on the board.. only the rational ones.  



I am??? You can actually read my mind as to what I am thinking when I list items for sale??? Wow you really are smarter that you appear to be by your posts on this site.  Its really a good thing that the Woody auction that you were so convinved was legit ended up that way right?


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:51 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:
I think we're simply talking at cross purposes again. You have one definition of "trying to sell", I have another.

To you, it seems "trying to sell" must mean looking to get rid of something at all costs or doing so to make a profit.

To me, "trying to sell" means only that you make an item available (and informing others of this fact) for purchase by another person.


Now you are trying to redefine the dictionary???

TRY:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/try

. to attempt to do or accomplish: Try it before you say it's simple.  
2. to test the effect or result of (often fol. by out): to try a new method; to try a recipe out.  
3. to endeavor to evaluate by experiment or experience: to try a new field; to try a new book.  
4. to test the quality, value, fitness, accuracy, etc., of: Will you try a spoonful of this and tell me what you think of it?  
5. Law. to examine and determine judicially, as a cause; determine judicially the guilt or innocence of (a person).  
6. to put to a severe test; subject to strain, as of endurance, patience, affliction, or trouble; tax: to try one's patience.  
7. to attempt to open (a door, window, etc.) in order to find out whether it is locked: Try all the doors before leaving.  
8. to melt down (fat, blubber, etc.) to obtain the oil; render (usually fol. by out).  
9. Archaic. a. to determine the truth or right of (a quarrel or question) by test or battle (sometimes fol. by out).  
b. to find to be right by test or experience.  

--verb (used without object) 10. to make an attempt or effort; strive: Try to complete the examination.  
11. Nautical. to lie to in heavy weather under just sufficient sail to head into the wind.  
--noun 12. an attempt or effort: to have a try at something.  
13. Rugby. a score of three points earned by advancing the ball to or beyond the opponents' goal line.  
—Verb phrases14. try on, to put on an article of clothing in order to judge its appearance and fit: You can't really tell how it will look until you try it on.  
15. try out, to use experimentally; test: to try out a new car.  
16. try out for, to compete for (a position, membership, etc.): Over a hundred boys came to try out for the football team.  
—Idioms17. give it the old college try, Informal. to make a sincere effort: I gave it the old college try and finally found an apartment.  
18. try it, that, etc., on, Chiefly British Informal. a. to put on airs: She's been trying it on ever since the inheritance came through.  
b. to be forward or presumptuous, esp. with a member of the opposite sex: She avoided him after he'd tried it on with her.  


Its also quite funny that your defintion of try is in direct conflict with what the poster posted:

dragonstrove wrote:I wasn't really looking to sell them



What part of that does he even hint that he is "trying to sell it"???
TBH, I am not even sure why I am arguing with you anyomre as its pointless and you really do not have a clue and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge it.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:53 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:55 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:
Shhh!


I am happy to announce that its official:


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:59 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:05 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:
I have and continue to acknowledge that you can see things differently, as per my earlier post.

As to the definition of "try", certainly going through the effort to publicize one's willingness to sell an item (by posting it on a website) and even to specify the exact price needed to part with that item.. is an attempt to accomplish a sale! I don't think it is conceivable to "sell" or "try to sell" something without first doing both of those things. Can you?



If you say so there chief:

dragonstrove wrote:I wasn't really looking to sell them


The seller is of a differeing opinion of what you are saying himself, so you are really arguing with the sellers own intentions about why he put the item on his site.  Maybe you should send him an email and you can argue with him about his own intentions, just like you are telling me about my thought process when I am auctioning my stuff.  Dude, you are a f**king genious.  Like I said above, I am happy to announce that it is in fact official:

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:05 pm 
 

Personal attacks don't constitute an argument. All they do is make the person making them look childish.

bclarkie wrote:Another thing that needs to be said is that Michael made that post here well over 2 years ago, back when the going rate for an Inverness was around $800.

If Mike no longer wanted to see the 'Inverness' for $3000 as he apparently did before, then he could have changed the price in the intervening two years. The fact that he hasn't -- he surely has a good idea of the market value of items -- would seem to indicate that he's still willing to sell it at that price.

Look, I get that some of you are annoyed at STS. Why, I have not yet fathomed. One would think that the opinions of a capitalist would be welcomed in a forum where many people buy and sell games for profit. In any case, it's pretty lame to attack someone personally ('assclown', 'troll') just because his opinions about the economics of collecting differ from yours.



  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:06 pm 
 

I am happy to announce that its official:


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:09 pm 
 

I've always thought that $1500 price he's got for the Tamo is within the confidence limits.  He sent me a bunch of scans and closeups many months ago, and it looks pretty good.

If I didn't already have one, I'd certainly bag that one for what he's asking.  

The Inverness, on the other hand, is far too expensive, but of course he's aware of that.

By the way, he had a 3rd print woody sitting on the site for a long time with a price tag of $650 (IIRC).  I hemmed and hawed, and finally came around to the decision that it wasn't really that far off, but by then it was gone.  Congrats to whomever picked it up.  Looked like a nice copy.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:11 pm 
 

Yawn.

Am I any closer to 2000 posts yet?


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:11 pm 
 

Man.

This is taking forever.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:11 pm 
 

Guess I should have adopted the draco76 method long ago...


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:12 pm 
 

BTW,

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