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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:45 am 
 

Here is a new one.. name the product that this has been "borrowed" from?




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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:49 am 
 

beasterbrook wrote:Here is a new one.. name the product that this has been "borrowed" from?


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Clyde has changed his style  8O Used on a Dragon Mag cover?  Which number?

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:00 am 
 

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Background by Clyde Caldwell:
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Red's Pose by Clyde Caldwell:
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Red's Costume by Clyde Caldwell:
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:17 am 
 

i like it!

great pictures as well...



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:37 am 
 

Hmmm...the third one looks kinda like Drew Barrymore.  8)   Nasty looking chastity belt thingy going on there.  Get something too close to it and it might get bitten off.  8O

  


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:56 am 
 

Picasso did say, "Good artists copy, great artists steal."
Of course the key is to hide it a little better.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:26 am 
 

Just to clarify . . . that is the most popular Marvel Comics depiction of Red Sonja and the way she was drawn throughout the 70's, 80's and into the 90's.  Clyde Caldwell was just drawing Sonja the way Marvel had her attired.

John Buscema was the artist who first drew her that way in Conan #43 from 1974.  This became to protypical image of Sonja and a classic example of "Warrior Woman in Chainmail Bikini".  :)


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:27 am 
 

It doesn't matter.  I think she's still wearing too much.



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:30 pm 
 

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on Red Sonja herself, but that background is a direct ripoff.  You'd think he could have put the staircase on the other side, or maybe changed the skulls on the bannister into orcs.  Criminey.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:55 pm 
 

Hmm, maybe someone should email the buyer and let them know all there is to know about this "original" piece. :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:11 pm 
 

It looks to me like he actually took the original background and played around with it in Photoshop (or something like that). All of the cracks, etc., in the stone are exactly the same. The only difference is the color.

Even the dragon is the same (though he has been resized).

The painting looks a bit weird, like a Bill Willingham portrait on a Jeff Easley background.



  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:47 pm 
 

i quite like it though, i have to say :)

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:59 pm 
 

I can't remember what product had that background image on it though. Mr Bulanadi may have been looking in "The Art of Clyde Caldwell" considering the pose picture is right on the cover.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:04 pm 
 

kevin mayle wrote:I can't remember what product had that background image on it though. Mr Bulanadi may have been looking in "The Art of Clyde Caldwell" considering the pose picture is right on the cover.


It was defintely on REF3-The Book of Lairs:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpag ... econd.html

I believe that it was also used on the cover in something for 2nd edition as well.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:11 pm 
 

It actually was also used in Dragon Magazine #65:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/periodi ... gon65.html

I am not sure if ti was used anyplace else.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:18 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
It was defintely on REF3-The Book of Lairs:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpag ... econd.html

I believe that it was also used on the cover in something for 2nd edition as well.


And the points go to bclarkie! Not an exact rip off, the necklace on the right dangles a bit lower that the origional, one horn is smaller, the dragon has also been pushed to the left to fit it in (don't know what happened to to its right front foot), but yes the cracks and background are an exact duplicate. Beyondthebreach is right, this is the classic Marvel depiction of Red Sonja, I'm almost sure that this has been borrowed off a Marvel cover as well, I just don't know which one. It looks like to different painting merged into one ... maybe extra points if someone can find were Red came from as well;)

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:32 pm 
 

From looking at his website and seeing that he is a professional artist, I assumed that he was just using reference material for his work and went a bit overboard with completely copying the background, but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt on not making a direct copy of Red Sonja. You might be right though about that being a copy as well because I found another picture of his that he calls "Leif Erikson meets Captain America", which is another copy. This time it's of a classic Frank Frazetta piece.
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To  me, original art is cool, using other art as reference material is cool, copying other art as a tribute while giving due credit to the original artist and his work is cool, ripping someone off and claiming it as your own is not cool.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:44 pm 
 

kevin mayle wrote:To  me, original art is cool, using other art as reference material is cool, copying other art as a tribute while giving due credit to the original artist and his work is cool, ripping someone off and claiming it as your own is not cool.

Yea, its pretty clear that this guy is an ass hat.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:04 pm 
 

I agree, credit were credit is due... even the waves and rivits are the same geez... and for gods sake if you are going to do it choose someone a bit less famous than Frank... wonder what the other half of that pic is from?

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:00 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:It actually was also used in Dragon Magazine #65:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/periodi ... gon65.html

I am not sure if ti was used anyplace else.


OK, not quite on-topic, but . . . . did I read that right on the upper right hand corner of Dragon #65; did it actually say "Fantasy Football"????
Anyone remember what THAT article was about and why it's in a RPG magazine?  :?  :o  :?:

  
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