napoleonsdad wrote:

Distance and relative anonymity created by ebay and the internet serves to empower these types.  If this guy were to deal with me face to face he would crap his drawers.  I bet he's a little pipsqueak.

You know, you can leave follow up feedback to feedback you have already left, even if it's positive.  Go ahead and do it, dickhead has already burned his bridges.  Say something like "Avoid this buyer, Negged me after I left him a positive, terrible service".  Nothing he can do about it either.....

Mike B.

Sorry napoleonsdad I wasnt refering to you. I was thinking of some of the other stuff that I had read concerning people who go nuts over stuff they have bought and immediately start demanding to know why it hasnt arrived.

And I apologize if it sounded like I was going off on you.  I'm not.  Funny though one time I voiced my opinions about sellers who ignore their buyers in an ebay thread and I received a thrashing from many sellers.  They seemed to think a 3 or 4 week delay in response was reasonable.  Sometimes I think I come from a different world.

napoleonsdad wrote:From now on I won't leave a FB to a seller unless it's completely positive and warranted.  I'm not willing to take the hits for honestly expressing what I feel or to window dress what I say in fear of taking a hit.

Fortunately I don't think the feedback will make a dent in you 917 feedback score  

Plus if I was checking your feedback to buy from you then I would see the other guys and realise that he is a complete schmuck! Only an asshat seller would leave a neg feedback to a positive. IMHO I won't buy from a seller that attacks customers ... just bad business!

Why don't you ask ebay to investigate and remove.  You have proof via the ebay message system that he didn't respond....?

improvstone wrote:
There are circumstances where a 3 or 4 week delay could be reasonable.  

For example:

1. The seller was hospitalised (not you creep you are full of shit   )
2. Seller sent the item went on a holiday and the item and was lost in the mail while he was gone (not you cougar )

However, these cases are rare and I haven't come across a valid delay in responses yet.

Don't forget you also need to double check SPAM filters ... etc.  email is NOT a guaranteed service!

Personally, two traumatic events in my life, the death of my father four years ago and 6 years ago a fall which broke both thumbs, a wrist and fractured an elbow, I was able to get all my orders out in timely fashion if not maybe a week or two late.  Nothing like 3-4 weeks behind schedule.....and in the accident case, I had one arm in a sling and the other in a cast, and was still able to put packages together!!!

Mike B.

Hello All,



Not sure if this is the right thread, but I just needed to vent. A few weeks ago I purchased several modules from a seller: Coppercent. Here are the links to the items:

CA2:  
** expired/removed eBay auction **


UK2:  
** expired/removed eBay auction **


UK5:  
** expired/removed eBay auction **


UK7:  
** expired/removed eBay auction **




The description about them coming from storage made me cautious, but I did not learn until later that the seller bought these from a closed storage unit. The CA2 was in original shrink, but the shrink was brittle and discolored. The UK2 was in Fine+ condition, no complaints. The UK5 was in okay condition, but had writing in pencil on one page, several large stains on the last & second to last page, plus the staples were completely rusted & stained the inside cover. The UK7 was in pretty good condition, but had a small stain on the cover (monkeys face), the lower pages were all wrinkled as if from water damage, plus the lower staple was also completely rusted & stained the inside cover, which is not how it was represented, nor how she answered my question about its condition.



She agreed to accept the UK5 & UK7 back for a full refund, so I placed them in new bags with boards and sent them to her. She refunded my payment and I left the following Positive feedback:

"Fast ship, good package, condition not as described, but seller corrected."

For the two returned items, she posted the following replies, in all caps:

"ITEM WAS EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED, I RESOLD WITH NO PROBLEM"

"BOUGHT 4 AND RETURNED THE MOST EXPENSIVE"

In addition, she leaves me a Neutral feedback as follows:

"RETURNED BOOKS,SD CONDITION BAD, NOT TRUE RESOLD NO PROBLEM"



I just had a message exchange with her (MISTAKE) as I had asked why she felt it was necessary to leave a Neutral FB with negative comments. Now she is threatening to leave me Negative FB. Here are the psycho witches messages:

1st - "My feedback was based on the transaction between you and me. I had several of the D & D books and thought maybe I had overlooked the condition. I gave you benefit of doubt until I got the books back in my hand to see the condition. My husband and I both agree that these book were in great condition. I considered negative feedback, but hated to mess up your 100% and it would not have benefited me either. Although you left positive feedback, you still included negative comments for me. I did not leave any until you did. Marie"

2nd - "It said condition not as described, same as saying I LIED, didn't tell the truth-can't be trusted to give correct description (sounds negative to me). Like I said, once I got the books back in my hands, I rechecked the conditions and I still feel that the books were in great condition. The staple may not have been shiny, but big deal. I have resold the books so I cannot be sure of the age, but I believe they were around 25 years old. I wouldn't expect a perfectly new staple after 25 years of being around. Marie"

3rd - "I just read several of the feedbacks you have left for others. Many, many, many of them says condition not as described, but seller corrected. Looks like it might be a habit with you. I do have one feedback left I can give you and I am considering it!! Marie"



Here are the messages I sent her that apparently were so harsh, that she felt it necessary to threaten me:

1st - "Marie,

What was the point of leaving me a Neutral feedback? I returned the items to you boarded & in a brand new bag, not the musty ones I received the items in. I was honest saying that the items were not as described. I did not say they were bad. My feedback was positive because you refunded me for the returned items, now you hit me with negative comments and a Neutral feedback. It is amazing how I have pages of extremely positive feedback from good sellers . . . maybe you should have looked through the feedback before rushing to judgment."

2nd - "I am sorry that you construed my comments as negative. I simply said: Fast ship, good package, condition not as described, but seller corrected. The other two items I left the following: Fast ship, good packaging, very nice condition, & a great deal - Thank You.

How you take any of that as negative and how that warrants ALL CAPS saying: RETURNED BOOKS,SD CONDITION BAD, NOT TRUE RESOLD NO PROBLEM is not something I can understand.

Regards - Paul"



How do I contact eBay and send them the message from her threatening me with a Negative FB that she has withheld. like a gun pointed at my temple      



BTW, she is re-selling the crappy UK7, so does anyone here know the current bidder, so that he can ask to have his bid withdrawn:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


In addition, when I opened the CA2, I could see that it had been exposed to moisture/water, even while in S/W and the top staple was completely rusted.



Thanks,

FormCritic wrote:My message to the seller:

"Hi! Is there any water damage to this book?"

I wonder what she'll say.

Well, that may not have been a good idea. She has now left me a NEGATIVE FB and on one of the items that I kept, not returned. I am so infuriated I could  . . .

I am going to try contacting eBay about unfair FB and threatening me with NEG FB for no just cause, other than the fact she is a F***ING IGNORANT BOTTOM FEEDER living off storage auctions.

If anyone can offer me some insight to the inner workings of eBay, like BC , maybe I can get this reversed, but I am NOT contacting this PSYCHO WITCH QUEEN anymore.

So much for trying to be nice & fair

Kingofpain89 wrote:Sellers like this just piss me off to no end.  She is probably sitting on her fat ass in her double-wide trailer wearing a nightgown that she hasnt changed in three days with rollers in her hair and a marlboro hanging from her mouth muttering to herself about buying a new broom because she keeps getting splinters in her crotch when she rides her old one.  

I read through a bunch of her older feedback.  Quite a few people complaining about smoke smell and overcharging on shipping.  Big red flag for me right there.  What a bitch.

Hopefully Ebay will help you sort it out but I wouldnt bet on it.

I should have gone through more of her feedback, but I just looked at the summary and the first page or two of feedback . . . it takes so much time to research the items, but to have to research sellers with FB ratings over 98% seems ridiculous . . . that's just EBAY

PM-Knight wrote:
Well, that may not have been a good idea. She has now left me a NEGATIVE FB and on one of the items that I kept, not returned. I am so infuriated I could  . . .

I am going to try contacting eBay about unfair FB and threatening me with NEG FB for no just cause, other than the fact she is a F***ING IGNORANT BOTTOM FEEDER living off storage auctions.

If anyone can offer me some insight to the inner workings of eBay, like BC , maybe I can get this reversed, but I am NOT contacting this PSYCHO WITCH QUEEN anymore.

So much for trying to be nice & fair

Sorry PM-Knight.

I agree.  As much as I would love to be able to help you out in this situation, as Gary points out above there isn't anything Ebay will do about it,  they don't care.  As Gary & Mike both point out though, I would strongly suggest leaving some seriously nasty(AND Factual) follow up feedback.  Keep in mind you have 4 feedbacks to follow-up at 80 characters each.  You can do a substantial amount of damage with 320 spaces.  Trust me, I've done it before.

Now, if that is not satisfying enough for you, you can always go the route that I have suggested before.  Create a new seperate Ebay ID(or two), buy some of her stuff as cheap as possible, pay for it, and then neg her as soon as you get it in the mail no matter what it looks like. The only problem with doing that though, is that even by doing that, I am not really sure if that is going to do to much to her feedback, given the state that is currently in already.

As a friendly piece of advice though, you may want to be more careful with the sellers with whom you deal with.  Realistically IMO, if a seller has more than 150 feeback total and his feedback percentage is less than 99%, you may want to avoid those sellers all together or at least look very heavily at the negs they have received and what they are for.  Any seller who has over 500 feedbacks and a percentage that lower than 99% I outright avoid completely no matter how great the deal is, as its not worth it to me to deal with the poteential hassle.  TBH, I avoid a lot of sellers who have feedback score of less than 99.5% if they have more feedback than 200.  Usually if a buyer/seller has that much feedback and has anything lower than 99.4% or 99.5%, that is usually an indication that something may be very wrong.  I know that I may be a little over cautious in these circumstances, but to this point it has served me pretty well.

In the long run you may have to pay a bit more by dealing with someone who has a feedback score of 99.4% and above, but you will start finding yourself a lot more happy at the end of the day.  Sometimes the extra honesty and the better service is worth it in the end.