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Post Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:33 pm 
 

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No...you've heard a lot of stuff about the kind of people who can be attracted to the Vampire RPG.  These people would be doing something wierd with or without the game.

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Just gives them more motivation I sappose.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:47 pm 
 

SH60B wrote:I have heard a lot of bad stuff about vampire rpg.  I guess the worse one was a group of teens who ended up murdering one of their parents posed as vampires.  Kind of creepy.

Is that the case from the US?  I can't recall the name of either sympathetic DVD documentary (two were made), but reviewers have said that one of the older adults is the more likely suspect.  The teens were pressured or tricked into confessing, as often happens.

That said, the teens were found guilty.  Being the subject of two DVDs neither proves one's innocence nor gets one out of jail.

[Edit: I was thinking of Paradise Lost and Paradise Lost 2: Revelations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_L ... Hood_Hills ]


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:06 pm 
 

I don't have any thing to back it up, just off of memory but the case I'm talking about involved two males between 17-19 and one female that was 14 and they had talked her into killing her parents and all I remember was it had something to do with a vampire rpg.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:27 am 
 

Here it is

http://www-gatago.com/alt/religion/wicca/21919920.html


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:08 am 
 


Anyone want to LARP?   :D

  

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:56 am 
 



Wow, seems I have remembered correctly.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:52 pm 
 



I stopped reading partway through.  I'd heard enough.

To list a few of the words used in the article:

satanic rituals
introduced to the occult
human sacrifice
at a young age
alcohol
use drugs
skip school
soliciting a minor

I could go on but that's enough...

My point is that all of those things were permitted or even practiced and condoned by the muderer's parents and the adults around him.  

All of them were completely outside the context of Vampire the Masquerade.  

The connection with Vampire casual...that is, the game was only a part of the interests and activities of the offender...rather than causal.

I also suspect mental and emotional problems as well as academic and interpersonal problems that were not mentioned in the article.

This is a story about what a disturbed, betrayed and evil person does when his parents are too busy with their own addictions and problems.  It has very little to do with Vampire.

The Vampire RPG was only the sexiest and strangest detail about the actions of this group of people.  One could probably build a casual connection between lots of these people's other group preferences and behaviors, such as where they ate, what music they listened to, video games, movies, television, clothing outlet stores, shoe sizes, cosmetics and whether or not they liked Coke or Pepsi.

"Chad was abandoned by his father, who introduced him to Pepsi at a young age.  He witnessed Pepsi drinking episodes beginning at the age of eight.  By the time he was 12, Chad had a Pepsi drinking habit of his own..."

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:55 pm 
 

I prefer coke - & I don't like 'Vampire' type games - must be a connection - spooky


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:04 am 
 

gyg wrote:I prefer coke - & I don't like 'Vampire' type games - must be a connection - spooky


wierd!

back in the day, i never felt like doing anything strange like that.

must all be in the mind. i guess i wasnt "into it" enough :)

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:13 am 
 

Nothing beats a good ole fashioned moral panic...Anyone remember Geraldo's tv special on Satanism and ritual abuse? I thinked the "experts" (mostly rabid evangelical/fundamentalist christians) determined that as many as 10,000 people a year were being ritually murdered in the U.S. alone. Of course D&D was the gateway drug of choice in many instances. I wish I had the chance to break Geraldo's nose...Who knows maybe I will one of these days.


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:46 am 
 

Remember, this was the same Geraldo who opened "Al Capone's Vault" . . . and found almost nothing (despite the hype!) in it. :lol:  :lol:  :roll:  :!:
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:22 pm 
 

what a game of cricket ......

nail biting stuff but Ireland salvage a remarkable tie as Zimbabwe throw it all away in the final 6 overs ..... :D

roll on Pakistan on St Patrick's day,  and of course there's the small matter of a wee game in Rome

oh my aching liver :lol:


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:31 am 
 

obiter wrote:what a game of cricket ......

nail biting stuff but Ireland salvage a remarkable tie as Zimbabwe throw it all away in the final 6 overs ..... :D

roll on Pakistan on St Patrick's day,  and of course there's the small matter of a wee game in Rome

oh my aching liver :lol:


hey bzr

i sat and watched that game - one of the most entertaining games i have seen in ages. i think the irish thoroughly deserved it and fwiw, i thought they deserved the win. i sometimes wish that the more illustrous teams, such as england, would play with the same spirit. very heartening to watch and i hope they go on to play like that against the other teams.

you can see though, why south africa had so many problems with them. they just wouldnt give up!

another huge plus factor for me, was their fans in the crowd - what a joy to watch - looked like they partied from start to finish and that was fab!

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:29 pm 
 

Just a nonsense post really, to while away the hours!

I had a real 'D&D' moment earlier today. Playing in the garden with my youngest (2 1/2) I suffered several powerful blows to the legs from a plastic Lego Bionicle sword. I had been trying to parry the little heathens blows (in a nonchalant manner of course) but she landed quite a few , before we were both told off by the wife and mother!!

Which brings me. laboriously, to my point - after the fracas I couldn't help but think - 'now I know why short races like dwarves get bonuses to hit giant size creatures' - Perhaps I have D&D on the mind a little too much (and should spend more time practicing my swordsmanship) :lol:  :oops:

Like I say - a slow day - sorry


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:10 am 
 

gyg wrote:Just a nonsense post really, to while away the hours!

I had a real 'D&D' moment earlier today. Playing in the garden with my youngest (2 1/2) I suffered several powerful blows to the legs from a plastic Lego Bionicle sword. I had been trying to parry the little heathens blows (in a nonchalant manner of course) but she landed quite a few , before we were both told off by the wife and mother!!

Which brings me. laboriously, to my point - after the fracas I couldn't help but think - 'now I know why short races like dwarves get bonuses to hit giant size creatures' - Perhaps I have D&D on the mind a little too much (and should spend more time practicing my swordsmanship) :lol:  :oops:

Like I say - a slow day - sorry


For my son's sixth birthday, it seemed like a good idea to buy plastic swords for all seven boys at his sleep-over party.  The swords were actually pretty nice...hollow...about 2.5 feet long.   Even my daughter (who was three) had her own sword and had a blast pretending to fence.

So...it seemed like a good idea to leap out from behind a door, holding a cardboard packing paper roll as my own sword.  The kids squealed and had a great time ganging up on me to fence with me.

So...I pretended to get stabbed and fell on my face on the couch.....

....and then all eight kids proceeded to finish me off by pummeling me with repeated plastic sword deathblows, swung with all their little might.

....and I resolved that the next time I got killed I would try to fall in some place where the little guys couldn't reach me.    :D

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:26 am 
 

No Mark - you must always fight to win - don't show them any weakness or you're dead meat!!

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:26 pm 
 

Okay, this one is not for the humor-impaired or those who take everything they see on the interwebs a little too seriously. And I'll add that this link might be mildly non-worksafe; it will all depend on how ridiculously PC your workplace is.

Now, with that out of the way, prepare to laugh ...

Rufus and Burne "win" an award:

Click link for funny stuff

Good stuff. I just checked it again (to make sure the link was working), and I started laughing all over again.  :)

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:49 am 
 

I love April Fools :)

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/news/20070401b

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:17 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:I love April Fools :)

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/news/20070401b

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Now THAT would be interesting . . . a D&D-based version of Monopoly!  (Why not?  There are already versions out for such as The Simpsons, Coca-Cola, the various armed services, a version for space exploration,  Star Wars [where the d6 is replaced by an R2D2], various cities, the Super Bowl, other sports . . . even a Garfield version.)

BTW, one of the problems mentioned was using 2d20?  Try using 2d8, 2d10, or even 2d12 . . . or, why not 2d4 . . . in your next Monopoly game?

  


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:38 pm 
 

Ah, it's been such a QUIET April Fool's Day!  Not like in the old days when Frank and I would rip one off after much scheming...


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