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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:35 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:I'm not looking up "opprobrium", but if that means "shame", it should apply equally to both parties.  Partizan politics should never be put ahead of little children.  Pathetic.


Get ready for more of it come this election year....  :(

I vote we keep the OT folder away from politics in 2008...and stick to less contentious subjects, such as sports, which seems to have such a soothing effect on everyone here :wink:

And totally off topic (of course)...you comic book fans, what do you think ridiculous Spiderman storyline that has basically trashed the last 20 years of his and Marvel's history?  I dropped the title from my pull list for the first time ever.  Hopefully when sales plummet they'll retcon the entire thing....

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:02 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:And totally off topic (of course)...you comic book fans, what do you think ridiculous Spiderman storyline that has basically trashed the last 20 years of his and Marvel's history?  I dropped the title from my pull list for the first time ever.  Hopefully when sales plummet they'll retcon the entire thing....


I take it then you've finally had a chance to read that issue.  You find it every bit as bad as I warned you it would be? ;)

I figure it's not going to last, bad sales or no; it's entirely fitting with Joe Quesada's past editorial decisions to have a big "world shaking event. Nothing will ever be the same!" and then change it back in a year or two.

I mean, at the time of the unmasking he was saying that it was going to be permanent, they had no plans to retcon it, and now it comes out they had planned to retcon it all along.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:17 pm 
 

What's the story?  I haven't picked up Spiderman for years.  Ever since the Heroes Reborn thing - I still don't completely understand what exactly happened there.

How did they retract everyone knowing spiderman's identity too?

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:39 pm 
 

Mars wrote:How did they retract everyone knowing spiderman's identity too?


"A wizard did it."

Ok, slightly more details:

What's the story?  I haven't picked up Spiderman for years.  Ever since the Heroes Reborn thing - I still don't completely understand what exactly happened there.


Basically, because of the unmasking, Aunt May took a sniper's bullet and was in a coma with no chance of recovery.

Eventually, following random crap which doesn't have that much bearing, Mephisto shows up and offers to keep Aunt May alive.  What he asks in return is Peter and Mary Jane's marriage.  (There's some bit about how theirs is true love, one-in-a-million, etc. etc.)  Peter and Mary Jane agree, healing Aunt May (of course, there's no guarantee that she won't drop from a heart-attack the next day, but you know...).  It's revealed that a girl who had shown up in the story represented Peter and Mary Jane's child who now will never exist, and then Peter wakes up in Aunt May's house (which had been burnt down in prior stories).

He's single, having never married Mary Jane.  Harry Osborn is still alive (side note: they've since revealed that he's been in Europe for the past 20 years. What is it with "dead" characters in the MU going off to Europe?), and no one remembers who Spiderman is.  They remember that he unmasked, but they don't remember who he is, and they can't find any evidence in newspapers, TV recordings, etc.

What's interesting is their "current state of the MU" splash explaining the Spiderman changes mentions that nobody knows Spiderman's secret identity.  One has to wonder if that includes those who knew his identity prior to the unmasking. (Venom, I'm looking in your direction.)

Same thing goes for any stories related to/requiring the marriage or Harry's death: they still happened exactly the way they happened, but nobody can remember or find any evidence related to anything involving Harry's death or the marriage.

Oh, and Dr. Strange, the Watcher, everybody like that? They can't tell that Mephisto mucked about with reality.  It's an absolutely perfect change, far above the powers ever shown by Mephisto before, and both changed everything and didn't (depending on who you listen to).

So, yeah: a wizard did it. :roll:


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:39 pm 
 

Mars wrote:What's the story?  I haven't picked up Spiderman for years.  Ever since the Heroes Reborn thing - I still don't completely understand what exactly happened there.

How did they retract everyone knowing spiderman's identity too?


Apparently Mephisto basically erased the moment in Peter Parker and Mary Jane's past where they became romatically involved.  Maybe James Cameron had a hand in the plot development.  :?

What I would like to know is how this is going to affect all of the events that were shaped by Mary Jane and Peter being involved?  I don't see Marvel being able to keep this going for very long.  It isnt like they just killed off Phoenix or something as insignificant.  :P


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:43 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:What I would like to know is how this is going to affect all of the events that were shaped by Mary Jane and Peter being involved?


The official stance is they all happened exactly the way they happened, except nobody remembers the marriage.

Yes, it makes as much sense as you think it does. :roll:


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:45 pm 
 

g026r wrote:So, yeah: a wizard did it. :roll:


Maybe Mephisto used balefire.  You know, the power that Aes Sedai use in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series to erase events and people from the fabric of space and time?

Sounds pretty plausible.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:48 pm 
 

What happens is, Spiderman and Mary Jane's marriage gets rocky when Peter finds out MJ is a moonbat hippy dippy far left Michael Moore loving liberal, and MJ simultaneously realizes that Peter is a fascist far right Anne Coulter type conservative.  Hilarity ensues!   :D

  


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:54 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Maybe Mephisto used balefire.  You know, the power that Aes Sedai use in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series to erase events and people from the fabric of space and time?

Sounds pretty plausible.  :wink:

Did you ever play the Wheel of Time videogame?  :lol:

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:59 pm 
 

Agent Cooper wrote:What happens is, Spiderman and Mary Jane's marriage gets rocky when Peter finds out MJ is a moonbat hippy dippy far left Michael Moore loving liberal, and MJ simultaneously realizes that Peter is a fascist far right Anne Coulter type conservative.  Hilarity ensues!   :D


Did they at least divide the apartment down the middle first? :D


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:02 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:Did you ever play the Wheel of Time videogame?  :lol:


Actually I did.  Still own it as a matter of fact.  Damn buggy though...I would get to a certain point in the game and it would crash every time.  There was a patch for it and I think it fixed it but I dont remember ever playing it again after that.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:50 pm 
 

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I take it then you've finally had a chance to read that issue.  You find it every bit as bad as I warned you it would be? ;)

I figure it's not going to last, bad sales or no; it's entirely fitting with Joe Quesada's past editorial decisions to have a big "world shaking event. Nothing will ever be the same!" and then change it back in a year or two.

I mean, at the time of the unmasking he was saying that it was going to be permanent, they had no plans to retcon it, and now it comes out they had planned to retcon it all along.


Apparently, initial fan reaction is ...well, not positive. While a small segment applauds the return of the single, nebbish, loser Peter Parker (I mean, we only had 25 years of that character...), most of fandom thinks it's on par with "Bobby Ewing in the shower it's all a dream" crap.  Basically the worst part is they could have done the same thing, without having to pretty much destroy 20 years of comics continuity  (i.e, MJ and Peter decide to divorce due to Mephisto's plotting, etc), if they just sat down and thought it out for maybe ten minutes.  Joe Quesada, who has gone on record for many years saying Peter and MJ getting married was the worst move in Marvel Comic's history, finally had the power to change the entire thing...and he made a ludicrous mess of it. Ugh. I'll be treating this like a "imaginary" fill in and come back after they change it back.

Looking forward to having the entire events of the Civil War storyline changed back due to it being a dream induced by The Watcher or something......

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:35 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
Apparently, initial fan reaction is ...well, not positive. While a small segment applauds the return of the single, nebbish, loser Peter Parker (I mean, we only had 25 years of that character...), most of fandom thinks it's on par with "Bobby Ewing in the shower it's all a dream" crap.  Basically the worst part is they could have done the same thing, without having to pretty much destroy 20 years of comics continuity  (i.e, MJ and Peter decide to divorce due to Mephisto's plotting, etc), if they just sat down and thought it out for maybe ten minutes.  Joe Quesada, who has gone on record for many years saying Peter and MJ getting married was the worst move in Marvel Comic's history, finally had the power to change the entire thing...and he made a ludicrous mess of it. Ugh. I'll be treating this like a "imaginary" fill in and come back after they change it back.

Looking forward to having the entire events of the Civil War storyline changed back due to it being a dream induced by The Watcher or something......

Mike B.


Just think Mike....give it a year or two and all will be back to normal in the Marvel Universe.  Only one team of Avengers will exist, Bucky will still be dead, Peter and MJ will still be married, Aunt May will still be really old, Captain America will have never died, the Hulk is still green, and the Uncanny X-Men will once again become Marvel's best selling title due to Jean Grey's rebirth as Phoenix and her repopulation of mutantkind....the hard way.  :D

Meanwhile over at DC Comics, Nightwing professes his undying love to Batman.  Superman and Lois Lane conceive a child together and during the delivery we find out that the baby is actually a clone of Lex Luthor from a parallel universe.  And Guy Gardner is kicked out of the Green Lantern Corps for starting his own escort service on Oa.  And to save money, DC will tab Geoff Johns to write every DC title in existence.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:28 pm 
 

That's all just crazy.  I can understand that continuity doesn't transfer when you change mediums such as comic/TV/movie but wished they did a bit better to keep the continuity within a medium.

I stopped collecting Marvel and DC years ago and have only been picking up some D&D comics lately - the Devil's Due ones.

Have you watched any of the Marvel animated movies (Avengers, Avengers 2, Iron Man, Doctor Strange)?  I think these have been done relatively well.  I really enjoyed the Doctor Strang and Iron Man ones.  I watched a couple of the DC ones too like Doomsday but they just aren't the same caliber.  Dragonlance coming in below these as well.

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:27 am 
 

Never liked rap or hip-hop music....have always thought it was shit.  Now apparently another reason to hate it:  It's bad for you!  :lol:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22718183//w ... ?GT1=10815

We already know listening to Country music causes depression.  Now this.  I wonder if the music industry will start putting warning labels on rap albums stating that listening to this music may kill you.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:37 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Never liked rap or hip-hop music....have always thought it was shit.  Now apparently another reason to hate it:  It's bad for you!  :lol:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22718183//w ... ?GT1=10815

We already know listening to Country music causes depression.  Now this.  I wonder if the music industry will start putting warning labels on rap albums stating that listening to this music may kill you.  :wink:


See...the thing is...was it the choice to listen to rap music that resulted in brain damage, or did brain damage result in the choice?

My anecdotal research would suggest that it is not the music that causes the damage, but the reverse.

In my school district, we used to start the upper grade classes with a television news show for teens called "Channel One."  This was a generally positive and informative news show paid for by chunks of advertising.

What turned me against it was the effect that the accompanying music...specifically, the occasional rap sample...would have pn my students.  My formerly quiet and somewhat sleepy first period students would leap up and salivate like Pavlov's dog.  OH...thank you for starting out my day with my students dancing and spouting gangster crap!

Anyway....I guess I just wanted rant.  Must have been the music sending me into a siezure.  :x


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:51 am 
 

hey badmike....

just came acorss a band that will be just down your street my friend:

http://myspace.com/thekillershrewsuk

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:58 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:hey badmike....

just came acorss a band that will be just down your street my friend:

http://myspace.com/thekillershrewsuk

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Cool name...but don't like the music.  Sounds like they took a time machine back to 1985 and are trying to sound like OMD or New Order on a budget......!

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:14 am 
 

If you've ever seen people "dancing" to rap, you'd realize they are ALL actually suffering seizures.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:32 pm 
 

Well, quite the interesting time here on the Acaeum.

We found out who Jim Perelman is, along with alot of other interesting stuff.

We got a firsthand report from somebody who met the legendary (or infamous) cougarinard in person.

The G-men are going to the superbowl.

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