Xaxaxe wrote:Again, this is meaningless.All bowl positions are guaranteed before the season even begins. You can pick up any preseason college football magazine in July, cut the list out and pin it to the fridge ... and it will not change.The ACC, Big 12, and SEC gain large number of bowl berths because they are large conferences. No other reason. The other three so-called "BCS conferences" are all smaller and therefore are granted fewer guaranteed bowl berths. It is not a merit-based system.*+++++*Well, other than for the four teams who manage to weasel their way into at-large spots in the BCS games. But, due to the five BCS games working under their own system, that's almost a separate argument.
By the way, didn't my Rose Bowl rant outrage anyone? I was expecting some sort of backlash. Were my arguments too logical and incontrovertible....or was it just that no one cared?
Badmike wrote:And in the last 30 years or so have gotten quite sick listening to college football fans leverage their 6th ranked team's win over a 5th ranked teams win in the Jalapeno and Cheddar Cheese Bowl into a mythical "championship'...which, in my mind, will always be mythical until they develop a playoff system.
Kingofpain89 wrote:Sure it's the "Granddaddy" of all the bowl games but its still just another bowl game.
Kingofpain89 wrote:Why is it that UCLA can be a twenty point underdog, unranked, 0-2 against subpar non-conference teams and still find a way to beat a Texas team ranked fourth in the country
Badmike wrote:I distinctly remember the 1990 Cotton Bowl where the Canes played UT and hammered them unmercifully 46-3.
Badmike wrote:Over the years, I've found the emotional investment in a college football team (even more than pro teams) leads to some of the most unfortunately biased rantings and arguments...most times ending in fisticuffs...between fans of different teams, or even conferences.
Xaxaxe wrote:*****Okay, that does it ... college football lesson coming! Especially for you heathens in the South and Southwest.
Badmike wrote:I refuse to invest too much time into bowl games until they someday do the logical thing and work out a playoff system. Coming from a college with no football team (Texas Wesleyan University), I have always been able to stay just a little bit emotionally out of the fray. And in the last 30 years or so have gotten quite sick listening to college football fans leverage their 6th ranked team's win over a 5th ranked teams win in the Jalapeno and Cheddar Cheese Bowl into a mythical "championship'...which, in my mind, will always be mythical until they develop a playoff system.Mike B.
Kingofpain89 wrote:Both times Texas played in the Rose Bowl I was thrilled.
Xaxaxe wrote:And here's the best part about the Rose Bowl: it is definitely not like the other 31 games. It is the only bowl that could choose to go its own way and still get huge TV ratings, still sell 95,000 tickets every year, and still be talked about by casual and rabid fans alike. That's one of the benefits to being 33 years older than the next-oldest bowl game.
Xaxaxe wrote:Badmike wrote: I distinctly remember the 1990 Cotton Bowl where the Canes played UT and hammered them unmercifully 46-3. That's actually a historic game, although many don't realize it. That game (1991, BTW, although following the 1990 season), more than any other, led to the current NCAA rules regarding "excessive celebrations," taunting, and other limitations. For anyone who didn't see it ... well, it was ugly. I stopped watching after a while and I was a pretty fanatic football fan. Miami went totally OTT in celebrating every first down, every big hit, and every Texas miscue. And they were all posing on the sidelines for the cameras (CBS, I think), flashing gang signs, etc. Which was another interesting issue: almost without exception, the most out-of-control players were blacks. They just were; there's no arguing it. But when the NCAA began to limit celebrating and taunting, some civil rights groups became upset that the rules were"targeting" blacks. It was a hot-button issue for a year or so, but, thankfully, the NCAA showed some backbone and basically said, "These rules affect all players, regardless of race." After a few months, the whole debate sort of just went away. I think that game set a bowl record for penalty yardage ... or maybe it was a record for personal-foul penalties (Miami had like eight calls for either roughing or unsportsmanlike conduct). Either way, it was disastrous: it was a poor reflection on Miami, the Cotton Bowl, and the state of the college game at the time. Miami was hardly the only team from that era doing way too much posing and preening.
Xaxaxe wrote:Real quick, for the record: I've had nothing but good experiences with football fans from Texas. They tend to be knowledgeable without being obnoxious about it ... and they like food and drink. Nothing wrong with that.One example: I actually sat in a mixed, but pro-Texas section for the 2000 Holiday Bowl, proudly wearing the green and gold of the Oregon Ducks. The Texas fans were great, even with their huge disappointment at the end (wide-open Texas receivers dropped not one, but two, game-winning passes in the final minute ... it was surreal). And the Texas band was frickin' awesome!If only the same could be said for fans from many other areas. Yes, I'm talking to you, Oklahoma fans ... you insufferable morons. And you, too, three-quarters of the SEC ...
January 2, 2008 - 6:24AMVandals have torched 372 cars as France celebrated the New Year, down on the figure last year after a night the police described as "relatively calm".Cars are burned fairly regularly in France and the image of vehicles in flames in poor suburbs became symbolic of riots in 2005 when angry youths set fire to thousands of cars.There is usually an increase in the number of cars torched on New Year's Eve compared to other days of the year."The night was relatively calm, without notable incident, there were very few direct clashes with the security forces," said a spokesman for the national police.At 0500 GMT (1600 AEDT) the Interior Ministry said 372 vehicles had been burned - 144 in the Paris region and 228 in the rest of France. That was down from 397 last New Year's Eve.At the height of the 2005 riots as many as 1,400 cars were attacked in overnight violence. In protests over President Nicolas Sarkozy election last May, demonstrators set fire to 730 vehicles.Police had stepped up their presence on French streets in anticipation of the year-end celebrations and the sale of petrol in cans was banned in some places.
Prufrock wrote:Too my Texas friends I stand with my fist in front of my face. I slowly raise my middle finger and state "Big 10 Rules" fully knowing that the Big Ten Does not rule anything. But I live in Big 10 territory and that's who I support. Yes, I am constantly let down when my Big 10 schools go up any other schools (Michigan vs Applactian State) but you Texans can just go straight to hell. Martin