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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:09 am 
 

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Give it some time....When the Cowboys get obliterated by either NE or Indy in the Superbowl and he has one catch for 5 yards, he will rip into Romo and Phillips...it will start and he will lay waste to the Cowboys just like he did to SF and Philly...and there will be another schmo owner who will pick him up and not be concerned about the consequences.  Sadly its all about wins and losses and zero integrity.

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He's not under contract after this season...so it will be interesting to see how many teams vie for his services. Methinks a lot of schmo owners will throw truckloads of money at TO after the year he has, baggage or none.  In the end it's all about wins and losses..but let's not kid ourselves it always has been. Even when "Saint" Landry was coaching the Cowboys, he talked about God and teamwork while Tex Schramm pulled some of the dog-dirtiest, sleaziest, and evil escapdes a GM could to sign or resign players, including lying to them during negotiations that they would be paid at the "top" of their profession and then paying them under what they would have made at about any other team at the time. I always love the old school Cowboys fans that wish it was "more like it was in the 70s"....yeh, when the Cowboys, not playing under a cap, were making more money than any other NFL franchise yet underpaying their players by telling them they should be "proud" and "blessed" just to be playing for America's Team.....sheesh.

After this season, free agent WR's are going to be lining up around the block begging to have Romo throw to them....TO is going to have a monster year (100 catches, 1500 yards, 25 tds) and if he bitches, he'll be gone, because there are a lot of WRs who aren't head cases who will be clamoring to have that kind of year.

People forget the reason TO "destroyed" the Eagles is that unfortunately it's always been pretty much a crap franchise.  You could destroy it by giving it a good hard nudge.  TO's not the best player on the Cowboys, which gives them an edge his last two teams didn't have (when he was the best player on the team).  I think he's realized this and kept his mouth shut as a result.  Much the same way Moss has ceased to be a distraction ever since he started getting loads of passes thrown his way by a quality QB.....people forget what a human cancer Randy was on his last two teams now that he's turned into a boy scout.  Winning and amassing loads of personal stats will do that.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:14 am 
 

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People forget the reason TO "destroyed" the Eagles is that unfortunately it's always been pretty much a crap franchise.  You could destroy it by giving it a good hard nudge.  
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Ouch, Mike bringing out the shovel...

So we threw a few snowballs at Santa one year and we have a court system setup under the stadium to process offenders right on the spot...  We really aren't that bad....:wink:

To say that he is not the best on Dallas would be a stretch.  I would bet Romo is having the year he is having because of TO.  Wait till they see some adversity...A loss to Green Bay could be a tipping point.  

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:06 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:29 pm 
 

Sir Kill Alot wrote:
Ouch, Mike bringing out the shovel...

So we threw a few snowballs at Santa one year and we have a court system setup under the stadium to process offenders right on the spot...  We really aren't that bad....:wink:

To say that he is not the best on Dallas would be a stretch.  I would bet Romo is having the year he is having because of TO.  Wait till they see some adversity...A loss to Green Bay could be a tipping point.  

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I think an early playoff exit after a 13-3 season would be some real adversity....I don't think one regular season loss at this time, even to the Pack, would turn TO into a malcontent.

I think the "crap franchise" tag is more for how the franchise is run.  I see a lot of questionable moves made by Lurie.  Not "Washington Redskins" level of questionable, but still....hey, the booing Santa and guys getting arrested in Philly at this point is something most Eagles fans are PROUD of anyway!

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:59 pm 
 

Sir Kill Alot wrote:
As a die-hard Eagles fan talking here...Owens single-handedly destroyed them a couple of years ago...

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:01 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:Just saying hello after a long absence. Has been a terrible year and I am finally getting things back together. Anyone who had a ebay issue, send a PM.

Otherwise, I am going to read through some posts and get back up to speed.

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Post Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:50 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:Just saying hello after a long absence. Has been a terrible year and I am finally getting things back together. Anyone who had a ebay issue, send a PM.

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:04 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:Just saying hello after a long absence. Has been a terrible year and I am finally getting things back together. Anyone who had a ebay issue, send a PM.

Otherwise, I am going to read through some posts and get back up to speed.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:43 pm 
 

Anyone here follow college football at all?  I dont think anyone thought that the BCS would end up the way it did after this past weekend.  I cant understand how Ohio State was able to get back into the BCS picture after their lackluster season.  They didnt play anyone good.  LSU at least I can fathom.  They may have two losses but at least they played some quality teams.

Too bad Georgia and LSU are in the same conference.  In my opinion they are the only two teams that really deserve a shot at the national championship.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:59 pm 
 

Have to disagree about Ohio, course you could say I'm Big Ten bias. There were a lot better teams this year in the conference, even if Wisconsin slipped compared to last year.
Course I would have liked Hawaii to have made it since they were unbeaten, but that is just not how the collage system is set up.  A December Madness :) type deal would be cool to see though.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:43 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Anyone here follow college football at all?  I dont think anyone thought that the BCS would end up the way it did after this past weekend.  I cant understand how Ohio State was able to get back into the BCS picture after their lackluster season.  They didnt play anyone good.  LSU at least I can fathom.  They may have two losses but at least they played some quality teams.

Too bad Georgia and LSU are in the same conference.  In my opinion they are the only two teams that really deserve a shot at the national championship.


Missouri losing really screwed it all up.  I have to admit I'm only half heartedly interested in the bowl game at this point...LSU should beat the stuffing out of Ohio State.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:35 pm 
 

Yes...we ought to go back to the original national championship game.

It used to be called the "Rose Bowl."


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:13 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:Yes...we ought to go back to the original national championship game.

It used to be called the "Rose Bowl."


For a second there Mark I thought you said "Rose Bowl".  I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me.  I know what you really meant to say was "Orange Bowl" but I understand how they can get a bit confusing sometimes.  All of those classic Miami-Oklahoma-Notre Dame-Florida State matchups of the 80's.....those were some great games.  I hear the Rose Bowl has a good parade though.  :wink:

Seriously though....Oklahoma is going to the Fiesta Bowl to most likely get beat...again.  At least I can hope so.  Poor, poor Florida State...anyone who loses to Miami doesnt deserve a bowl bid.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:18 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Too bad Georgia and LSU are in the same conference.  In my opinion they are the only two teams that really deserve a shot at the national championship.


Hear, hear!

The thing that bugs me is that the ranking system appeared to change on the last week of voting.  Up until the last week, voters were mainly considering records whether teams were playing quality teams or not.  Then, the last week voters looked at the quality of the teams.  Using the earlier system, LSU or Viginia Tech would have never jumped Georgia.  And using the last week's system, Kansas or Missouri would have never been top five to begin with.  The voters were inconsistent in their voting method.

I agree that LSU is the best team out there and they'll likely win over Ohio State like Florida did last year.  The Big Ten is not that good this year.

The BCS is only good for one thing and that's picking the best team in the nation, but it doesn't even do that very well.  The BCS system needs to be scrapped in favor of an eight team playoff system.  That way, at least the number nine and ten teams would be unhappy instead of the number three and four teams.  Just use the existing top seven bowls and start the playoff in mid-December.  And if you eliminate the conference championship games, it's only one more game per season for the top two teams!  Plus, it punishes pansy scheduling.  The College Basketball Playoff system has certainly resulted in more challenging season schedules.  Finally, rotate the top four bowls for the national championship and voila!


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:02 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:Plus, it punishes pansy scheduling.


It seems really stupid for top tier teams like Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Michigan to be playing teams like Appalachian St., Troy, and North Texas.  In some cases I understand that teams want to play other teams within close proximity of their schools.  But in the long run it seems that playing such a team does nothing but pad their record.  Ohio State may only have one loss but when you see that they played Youngstown St., Troy, Akron, and Kent St. you gotta think...well no wonder they only lost one game.  :?

One of the things I always hear from Big Ten fans is that their conference needs a championship game similar to the SEC, Big 12 and the ACC.  So even if they dont play every team in their conference they at least get one additional game that decides between the two best teams in their respective divisions.  That and maybe it will quiet down the whining that there is too much time between Ohio State's last game against Michigan and the BCS Championship and they are rusty and that is why they got beat so bad last year against Florida.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:15 am 
 

You know if you are going to rip OSU for scheduling crappy teams at least know who these other teams that you are defending are scheduling before doing so. Yeah, OSU played some crappy teams, but who wants to guess who had such perennial national powers such as Middle Tennessee, Tulane and Louisiana Tech on thier schedule this year? Was it OSU or one of its weak sister Bug Ten teams? No, it was none other that the superpowerful always playing an increadibly tough game week in and week out LSU.   I am really sick of reading all the SEC people spread this crap all based on the sole result of one game last year.  According to the "Experts" OSU had the 44th hardest schedule in the nation this year:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/117

People from the SEC love to remember that Florida tore apart OSU last year, but the seem to have such a short memory when it comes to the fact that OSU played 99% of the game without their best offensive weapon in Ted Ginn Jr. and they also neglect to remember two other scores for last years bowl games:

Capital One Bowl
Wisconsin 17, Arkansas 14

Outback Bowl
Penn State 20, Tennessee 10

Yeah thats right that same shitty Big Ten that all the SEC fans love to cry about finished 2-1 against them in bowl games last year and anyone who actually watched the Penn St.-Tennesee game knows that game wasn't really as close as the final score was.  So please spare me the "weak Big Ten" crap, it has absolutely zero bearing in reality.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:32 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:
Hear, hear!

The thing that bugs me is that the ranking system appeared to change on the last week of voting.  Up until the last week, voters were mainly considering records whether teams were playing quality teams or not.  Then, the last week voters looked at the quality of the teams.  Using the earlier system, LSU or Viginia Tech would have never jumped Georgia.  And using the last week's system, Kansas or Missouri would have never been top five to begin with.  The voters were inconsistent in their voting method.

I agree that LSU is the best team out there and they'll likely win over Ohio State like Florida did last year.  The Big Ten is not that good this year.

The BCS is only good for one thing and that's picking the best team in the nation, but it doesn't even do that very well.  The BCS system needs to be scrapped in favor of an eight team playoff system.  That way, at least the number nine and ten teams would be unhappy instead of the number three and four teams.  Just use the existing top seven bowls and start the playoff in mid-December.  And if you eliminate the conference championship games, it's only one more game per season for the top two teams!  Plus, it punishes pansy scheduling.  The College Basketball Playoff system has certainly resulted in more challenging season schedules.  Finally, rotate the top four bowls for the national championship and voila!


You'd think devising a college football playoff system was as arcane and intricate as learning quantum physics while trying to keep your 1st level thief alive in Tomb of Horrors.  All the teams playing the pansy schedules (and I followed Miami in the 80s, I know the jokes they had scheduled some weeks) would be shown for the frauds they are, while some teams with decent records still might catch lightning in a bottle. It's mindboggling that the colleges are so backward thinking and hidebound they are leaving a REAL championship (not the mythical one now) on the table as well as all that money they like to spend and spend and spend (ratings for an 8 team playoff?  Get out of here!!!).  All the arguements against a college football playoff have been debated and found seriously lacking intelligence....and then someone every other college sport seems to put a playoff together.  Maddenning. I used to think I'd see it in my lifetime, now I"m teetering on that opinion..

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