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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:02 pm 
 

I used the word liberal because I couldn't think of a better term.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:42 pm 
 

"No Child Left Behind" should actually be called, "No Child Gets Ahead."  Here's an analogy I copied.

No Child Left Behind: The Football Version

1. All teams must make the state playoffs, and all must win the championship.If a team does not win the championship, they will be on probation until they are the champions, and coaches will be held accountable.

2. All kids will be expected to have the same football skills at the same time and in the same conditions. No exceptions will be made for interest in football, a desire to perform athletically, or genetic abilities or disabilities.

ALL KIDS WILL PLAY FOOTBALL AT A PROFICIENT LEVEL.

3. Talented players will be asked to work out on their own without instruction. This is because the coaches will be using all their instructional time with the athletes who aren't interested in football, have limited athletic ability or whose parents don't like football.

4. Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in 4th, 8th and 11th games.

5. This will create a New Age of sports where every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams will reach the same minimal goals.

If no child gets ahead, then no child will be left behind. 8O


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:51 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:"No Child Left Behind" should actually be called, "No Child Gets Ahead."  Here's an analogy I copied.

No Child Left Behind: The Football Version

1. All teams must make the state playoffs, and all must win the championship.If a team does not win the championship, they will be on probation until they are the champions, and coaches will be held accountable.

2. All kids will be expected to have the same football skills at the same time and in the same conditions. No exceptions will be made for interest in football, a desire to perform athletically, or genetic abilities or disabilities.

ALL KIDS WILL PLAY FOOTBALL AT A PROFICIENT LEVEL.

3. Talented players will be asked to work out on their own without instruction. This is because the coaches will be using all their instructional time with the athletes who aren't interested in football, have limited athletic ability or whose parents don't like football.

4. Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in 4th, 8th and 11th games.

5. This will create a New Age of sports where every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams will reach the same minimal goals.

If no child gets ahead, then no child will be left behind. 8O


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:39 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:46 pm 
 

I am most fortunate to have really terrific schools in my area (well, it was not luck so much as writing the school boards to get the scores of the schools and choosing a home in that neighborhood, but I digress) but many folks I know here in the sunshine state send their kids to school in front of their home computer.  http://www.flvs.net/

It's a pretty good alternative, apparently.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:12 pm 
 

I recently heard, at my kids school (I'm a governor, for which read self-important busy-body :D ), that there is a problem with using the word 'failure' when describing a childs academic achievement - the F word should be replaced with the wonderful term 'deferred success'. Now I'm a positive, up-beat kind of guy but this is absolute fucking nonsense - 'guess what kids, it's a big hard world out there, so everything is not going to be handed to you on a plate - get over it'.
Molly-coddling the youth of today will not help society in any way shape or form, everyone eventually finds there own level - the fuck-ups will remain fuck-ups and the decent,hard working ones will succeed - I realise that this is a huge generalisation but it's a pretty safe bet 99.9% of the time.

Rant over - deferred success my arse :evil:


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:16 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote:
There's a mom at the local elementary school who's been patrolling the playground before & after school, harrasing kids to stop playing tag or catch [the ball might hit someone]. If more parents like her demand it, the schools will follow the trend. It can happen here.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:07 pm 
 

gyg wrote:I recently heard, at my kids school (I'm a governor, for which read self-important busy-body :D ), that there is a problem with using the word 'failure' when describing a childs academic achievement - the F word should be replaced with the wonderful term 'deferred success'. Now I'm a positive, up-beat kind of guy but this is absolute fucking nonsense - 'guess what kids, it's a big hard world out there, so everything is not going to be handed to you on a plate - get over it'.
Molly-coddling the youth of today will not help society in any way shape or form, everyone eventually finds there own level - the fuck-ups will remain fuck-ups and the decent,hard working ones will succeed - I realise that this is a huge generalisation but it's a pretty safe bet 99.9% of the time.

Rant over - deferred success my arse :evil:


Allot of this same crap is happening over here in the states.  What these morns really fail to realize is that by not allowing your kids to deal with failure and adversity now, makes then very poorly prepared to deal with it when it inevitably happens.  Personally, I think it a major underlying factor in these idiots kids that go and shoot up their classmates for seemingly no apparent reason, kind of like the kid today in Finland.

Now obviously there are other reasons for this stuff happening, but I firmly beleive that this coddling that has been steadily increasing over the last 15 to 20 years is a conributing factor.  I mean think about how many times this has happened in the last 2 decades now, where is never happend in the prior to that.   Yeah, occasionally a kid would commit suicide, but this "the world is against me, I can't take it, so I am going to kill a bunch of my classmates before I off myself" as a way of evening the score to me absolutely screams of being ill prepardness on how to deal with adversity and failure.

If you don't teach a kids when they are young how to overcome the failures and deal with adversities in his life, he/she sure in hell isn't going to have the slightest idea on how to handle it when it inevitably will happen later in life.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:15 am 
 

gyg wrote:everyone eventually finds there own level - the fuck-ups will remain fuck-ups and the decent,hard working ones will succeed - I realise that this is a huge generalisation but it's a pretty safe bet 99.9% of the time.


So, there is nothing to lose by trying to keep some of them motivated to possibly try.

Some will succeed no matter what.  Some will fail no matter what.  You might save a few of the students in between these two groups if you get them to try some more.

Remember that in real life there is failure, but that is not the end of things.  You fail and fail again...but you try and try again until you find something you can do well.


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gyg wrote:everyone eventually finds there own level - the fuck-ups will remain fuck-ups and the decent,hard working ones will succeed - I realise that this is a huge generalisation but it's a pretty safe bet 99.9% of the time.


So, there is nothing to lose by trying to keep some of them motivated to possibly try.

Some will succeed no matter what.  Some will fail no matter what.  You might save a few of the students in between these two groups if you get them to try some more.

Remember that in real life there is failure, but that is not the end of things.  You fail and fail again...but you try and try again until you find something you can do well.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:18 am 
 

About the school shooting in Finland....

MSN today ran the story under "Rare School Shooting in Finland."  As if school shootings were not rare in general in every country, including the US.  They are, actually.  That's why they are news.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:12 am 
 

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The league will later have to add an asterisk next to the entry in the recordbook though...

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Oh look, Shula agrees.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... htm?csp=34

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:39 am 
 

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Oh look, Shula agrees.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... htm?csp=34

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I agree with Shula, but his credibility in this case is pretty suspect.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:42 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:About the school shooting in Finland....

MSN today ran the story under "Rare School Shooting in Finland."  As if school shootings were not rare in general in every country, including the US.  They are, actually.  That's why they are news.


While its obviously not "common" per se here in the US, I think its a lot more frequent than people really realize.  I mean, obviously the one in Finland is on par with the Columbine and VT shootings so it is an exception to the rule and therefore, rightfully gathers more headlines.  That said however, sadly there are also lots of other school shootings that get unreported nationally by the press, specifically ones that happen in inner cities many of which are gang related.  Again, I am not saying that its a common occurance, I just think it just happens a lot more often than people realize, because unless you are in the area that it actually happened you aren't aware of it, as it typically doesn't get picked up nationally by the media unless it's of the mass shooting sort.  I think that's probably why the chose the word "Rare", as shootings of any sort (mass or otherwise) are far less frequent there, than in the US.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:08 am 
 

Shula is a muttonheaded dinosaur who won a 14-game streak. He's just pissed he won't have an excuse to drink champagne every year.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:11 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:One more reason to dislike the Patriots:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_ex ... =nfl,52422

Anyone who watches NFL games on CBS knows that their sound feed sucks.  You would think that they would just be happy that they won the damn game.

And now the Detroit Lions are running up the score on their opponents.  A sure sign that the world is coming to an end.  :P


Interesting memory that brought back:  Does anyone remember a Detroit-Pittsburgh game on Thanksgiving a few years back, where there was a mixup at the OT coin flip?

Yes, this game was on CBS; I taped the game to watch later on, and heard something interesting:  Remember the referee "thought" he heard Jerome Bettis of the Steelers call "heads" then change his mind and called "Tails" (or the other way around)?  And the referee took heat for "blowing" the coin flip?(The ref took the first thing he heard--"heads".)  Detroit won the game without the Steelers getting the ball back.

Every replay had Bettis call "heads" while the referee said he heard "tails", but there was no sound of anyone saying "tails".
HOWEVER . . . on the original CBS live feed (not replays), someone IS heard clearly saying "heads" just before Bettis called "tails"; but no subsequent replays, recordings, etc. heard this.  
Hmmmm. . . . . . .makes one wonder. :ncool:  :eye:

  

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:43 pm 
 

The proof in the pudding was watching all the Steelers walk away excited, then watching them freak out when the ref said Detroit had won the toss. The Steelers called it right, I'm sure.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:48 pm 
 

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