Sea-to-sky-games wrote:This seems like strange reasoning to me and not one that has any explanatory power over human behavior. After all, it means all of us -- whether it is in rpgs at times, or buying food, or whatever -- go walking around with really no idea what things are worth to ourselves and we just fork out money like zombies.
Deadlord39 wrote:This discussion seems to come up twice a year, when a noobie comes on the scene and thinks he knows how the RPG economy works. I am tired of raking Seesaw over the coals, so here is my advice: follow your business plan, buy up lots of rare items at high prices, and sell them for even higher prices. It's been SOOOOO successful in the past.
This discussion seems to come up twice a year, when a noobie comes on the scene and thinks he knows how the RPG economy works. I am tired of raking Seesaw over the coals, so here is my advice: follow your business plan, buy up lots of rare items at high prices, and sell them for even higher prices. It's been SOOOOO successful in the past.
Sea-to-sky-games wrote:Actually, what this discussion seems to indicate is that there appears some hostility to new voices. I've never belittled anyone nor spoken in an adversarial manner... yet this is precisely what I've encountered from some others (to put in mildly). Is this how all "newbies" are treated?Moreover, I'm far from a "newbie" as I've been collecting tsr material for well over a decade and have lurked on this forum for awhile. I certainly don't run any business. But I am doing my graduate degree in economics, so I'd like to think I have some vague understanding of how economies work. But even so, surely all of is entirely irrelevant. After all, the one and only thing I've "contended" is that valuations are entirely subjective, which is what anyone without any background in any rpg or "rpg economics" can firmly postulate and defend. It is certainly not any novel idea or concept... except perhaps in this forum.
thehiddenone wrote:Considering the fact that he teetered back and forth about 4 times now on what he thinks and how he actually acts, I think Seesaw is the perfect name for him. Personally I think he is just a forum troll here to do nothing other than piss people off and try to start fights. He should from now on be treated just like every other forum troll and just flat out ignored by everyone.
Kosh Vorlontay wrote:Now on page 5 and the point is still missed
Badmike wrote:All SeaTSky has basically said in his many posts is that pricing is subjective. Mike B.
thehiddenone wrote:No that is not all he has said. You must have missed the posts were he said that how dare anyone act surprised and laugh that some stupid ass buyer paid far and above the going rate for an item. He has also defended the practices of just about every shady seller listed on this thread. I fail to see how because you have met this guy that it makes him any better than sellers like creep1962 and titan games. His philosophy about the economics of these sellers is the exact same yet no one until this guy has yet to defend it. Why now? Because you met him person, then he must be a swell guy? I don't buy it.
Badmike wrote:Well, conversely, I've never met you and I'm already fairly certain you're a schmuck. Mike B.
thehiddenone wrote:What is the point then since it doesn't seem anyone else gets it?
Kosh Vorlontay wrote:So get it while you can, make a profit while you can, collect it while you can and in the end just bury it with you when you go. At least then in 200+ years when the new civilizations dig you up (like the Egyptians of old) you will be worth more due to the size of your collection.
Sea-to-sky-games wrote:I doubt it. Besides, the market is amoral. It has nothing to do with ethics or morality.
thehiddenone wrote:Both me and vallhalla games right. Or did you already forget some of the things that you have written previously about them?
Badmike wrote:Well, conversely, I've never met you and I'm already fairly certain you're a schmuck.
deimos3428 wrote:(Ok, I admit I skimmed the next four pages. I'm pretty sure it was random back-and-forth bickering with some solid points in between. )The market is amoral. The D&D collecting community is not. That's the difference. We try our best to protect our own, as well as others newly interested in the hobby. Period, end of story. Tsojconth has been trending upward this year, but it is simply not worth almost twice last year's valuation.
improvstone wrote:Mike, please don't sink the discussion down to name calling. Especially after your last post tried to stop this behaviour. I know you are better than this
Badmike wrote:Unfortunately there are still those on these boards that refuse to recognize reselling of used items as a legitimate business, for whatever misguided and nostalgic reasons, and perhaps hold on to ideals in regard to RPG collectibles far longer than they should. They get angrier at a reseller gouging prices on an H1 than the multi-national bad guys raping us everyday at the gas pump.