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Each of these pics are for the 1975 board game Dungeon!. But they are different from each other. Could anyone explain why? Are they different printings, from different years or what? One is much wider than the other. Did that one come with a different size board or more pieces?
Thanks!

Yes, landscape orientation came first.  There are also printings with the inner walls being purple or white and various portrait boxes with different logos: lizard and wizard.  At last count I think I had 9 different printings including the long box editions.

If memory serves me right (and it might not in this case), the printing info goes something like this:

1st: landscape purple walls
2nd: landscape with white walls
3rd: portrait with purple walls, (I forget if this is a lizard or wizard logo)
4th: portrait with white walls, lizard logo
5th: protrait with while walls, wizard logo

Somewhere amongst the early printings is the Australian release by Jedko whose cover has a bit more colour.

Then I think we get into the Roslof long boxes which can be found with either the wizard or face logo. And then the Classic Dungeon! game and New Dungeon Game and don't forget the expansion to the New Dungeon Game as well.

That 10 different versions and I thought there was only 9 so maybe 3rd print doesn't exist but I think it really does.

Wow, that's a lot of useful information. There really should be a page on the main site for this game, along with cover scans. I'll summarize what I know of the various printings:

1968: Dave Megary watches the first dungeon crawl Blackmoor scenario by Dave Arneson, based on Dave Wesley's Braunstein game and creates a hand made prototype of Dungeon! Gary Gygax confirms that it predates D&D.
Summer 1975: 1st printing - landscape with purple walls, no #, $12.50 (unknown artist)
Early spring 1976: 2nd printing -  landscape with white walls, F103, $10.95
Strategic Review issue #? (Feb, 1976): Dwarves and Clerics in Dungeon!
Early spring 1977: 3rd printing -  portrait with purple walls, lizard logo, #1002, $9.95 (unknown artist)
Dragon Magazine issue #?: Hobbits and Thieves in Dungeon!
Probably 1978: 4th printing - portrait with white walls, lizard logo
Dragon Magazine issue #? (Oct, 1978): The Monk and Bard in Dungeon!
Probably 1979: 5th printing - portrait with white walls, wizard logo
Early 1980: 6th printing - Roslof box, wizard logo, # of players goes from 1-12 to 1-8
Later 1980: 7th printing - Roslof box, face logo
Possibly 1981: same as above
1989: The New Dungeon
1989?: The New Dungeon expansion pack
1992: Classic Dungeon
1975-1979?: Australian release by Jedko with recolored cover (portrait or landscape?)
1980?: Spanish release called Calabozo, cover seen here http://files.boardgamegeek.com/bggimages/pic78963.jpg
1986?: German release by Altenburger und Stralsunder Spielkarten-Fabriken playing card company called Labyrinth, cover seen here http://www.khbo.be/spellenarchief/Databasefoto/2493.jpg

Anyone have a scan of the Jedko cover?

kevin mayle wrote:Anyone have a scan of the Jedko cover?

Foul does and has posted before (last picture):

viewtopic.php?p=56882#56882

ShaneG.

I also find it interesting how even though the Jedko release crops the sides of the landscape image off to fit the portrait orientation, it does display a lot more of the top and bottom. The original artwork may have been square shaped to begin with, before being cropped to fit the various box shapes. Though it's not a particularly impressive illustration, I would like to find out the artists name, and that of the artist that made the second picture, used for the 3rd printing (if it's a different person), because I collect that sort of information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon!

Also an interesing read, especially about the cloth-vinyl map for the original.

ShaneG.

Kevin: I saved copies of the pictures of the Roslof Dungeon! cover prototypes that NK had for sale. I can post them here later in the week (after I return home).

I placed the Jedko edition over the 1st print & vice versa to see what the original art might have looked like. Except for the original probably being black & white, I think the Jedko edition is unmanipulated because it contains eyes behind the bars on the right, and the rat in it's proper place.