MShipley88 wrote:This green versus green observation dates back to when the books were new.I noticed back then that the Players' Handbooks that were slightly later than the one I used were darker and more glossy. There was also a difference in their texture and (I observed anecdotally) they seemed less durable.
Is there anyone who has enough 3rd prints of the Players' Handbook and similar examples on hand to compare?
First off, those looking at other PHBs can maybe help me out viewtopic.php?t=4969
MShipley88 wrote:I have not detected the same difference in printings of the Dungeon Master's Guide. This might be one of the reasons why old editions of the Dungeon Master's Guide tended to lose the backing to their spines as they wore out.
deimos3428 wrote:I have! I'm looking at a 2nd Beta (and a 4th) vs. an 8th, and there's an obvious change in inks. The colors aren't even close. The texture is different as well, but this is more evident comparing 2nd Beta/8th than 4th/8th. The first two were both stitched (the 2nd beta then torn apart and restapled), the latter was glued. Again, the 8th printing DMG was done by Random House.On to the MMs, the color and texture difference is rather apparent and occurs between the 4th/5th printings. I'll give you one guess who published the 5th, but apparently not the 4th.
chromaticknight wrote:.....I will try and get back on this after the holidays Shane.Mike
Plaag wrote:Is the PHB 6th the first instance of being from Random House?
And is the 6th or 7th print DMG from Random House?
If so then it would put the shift of printers at the start of 1980. Was the screw up with the DMGs and MM 3rd+ what caused the shift you wonder?
Deimos, could you get me a scan/photo of your MM 4th product list?
And people thought I was crazy to have about five copies of the PH, DMG, and MM....
How Green is your PHB?
grodog wrote:...as opposed to my mutant? (Sorry, couldn't resist!).