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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:27 pm

Xaxaxe--you need to loosen up a little. We're just having some fun and you make it sound like we're setting out on a vendetta or something.

Whether he knew it or not, was 13 or not, he wrote it and sold it and put it into the public domain when he sold it.

15 addresses in 23 years is quite a total; I have lived in my present home for almost 26 years. In my 57 years on this mortal coil I have had 10 addresses; three as a kid growing up, 4 in 4 years in college (about normal for college), and two since college. (I assume where I was stationed while serving four years in the US Navy don't count against me, as I had no say-so, the fact of the Draft, etc.) I guess I screwed up the average, eh?

"Personal attacks"? C'mon, is anybody carrying a gun, fer Chrissakes? Whether you are 13 or 33, if you choose to make inflammatory and outrageous remarks and rants, expect some feedback. Or do you suppose he was locked in with the Count of Monte Christo when he wrote his little screed, or perhaps immured in some prison somewhere?

Now who's being a bit excessive? When I made my original comment, I was not aware that the diatribe he wrote was so old, or that he was so young and immature when he wrote it.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:14 am

Kaskoid wrote:
15 addresses in 23 years is quite a total; I have lived in my present home for almost 26 years. In my 57 years on this mortal coil I have had 10 addresses; three as a kid growing up, 4 in 4 years in college (about normal for college), and two since college. (I assume where I was stationed while serving four years in the US Navy don't count against me, as I had no say-so, the fact of the Draft, etc.) I guess I screwed up the average, eh?

Totally off topic I know, but just sitting around doing some idle calculations, I don't have a single family member (mother, father, two brothers) or close friend (I chose the 7 main guys I played D&D with and hung out with in high school) that have lived at a single address in the last 25 years longer than say 10 years. Most have moved many times; I finally came in at 10 moves in the last 25 years and that includes two stints of 7 years each (the longest I have lived at any single address in my life!). My friend in the Airforce, I lost track at about 30 moves since high school (and he only joined the Airforce in 1989 or so)..he tended to move quite a bit in college, sometimes twice a semester (when you don't pay your rent they dont want you around!). What this proves, I have no idea, but I think there is a slight generation gap among those who have spent a significant piece of their life in one place and those who take it for granted they are going to pack up and roll every couple of years or so...
(For the record, I have had 20 different addresses in my entire 43 years on earth, but a lot of those were racked up in my first 7 years or so when my family moved a lot due to my father being in the air force and then taking a job selling mobile homes that took him all over Texas) So in conclusion, 15 addresses in 23 years might not be that unusual depending on this guy's line of work.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:21 am

Kaskoid wrote:We're just having some fun

If you say so. I've re-read your posts here, along with some others, and I'm not seeing the "fun."

Kaskoid wrote:15 addresses in 23 years is quite a total

Okay, whatever you say. I'm not sure who are to be doing all of this judging, but, apparently, not all of us have picked your path to happiness or career success or financial security or whatever is important to you.

I work in an industry that often requires moving (literally) to move up (the fabled "ladder"). I won't bore you with my resume, but I also won't apologize for not meeting your standard of stability.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:47 am

You know, it just proves he wasn't a mama's boy living in his parents basement. Tough getting dates to come over if you live like that

Me personally, I haven't lived in the same place for over 2 years since 1989. I tend to get sick of looking out the window and seeing the same thing every day. That is why I moved/transferred to Washington state. Excellent mountain views and you see something new on the horizon every day (though traffic is a bitch here. I swear that every time a speck of rain drops, people here universally drop their speed by 10-15 mph instantaniously. MShipley88 can vouch for that. Very bad traffic

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:51 am

Kosh Vorlontay wrote:You know, it just proves he wasn't a mama's boy living in his parents basement. Tough getting dates to come over if you live like that

Me personally, I haven't lived in the same place for over 2 years since 1989. I tend to get sick of looking out the window and seeing the same thing every day. That is why I moved/transferred to Washington state. Excellent mountain views and you see something new on the horizon every day (though traffic is a bitch here. I swear that every time a speck of rain drops, people here universally drop their speed by 10-15 mph instantaniously. MShipley88 can vouch for that. Very bad traffic ).

I kind of agree...as a matter of fact, would have probably moved more often in the last 15 years, but it's so hard to haul all this crap (aka gaming goodies) everywhere you just tend to settle in whereever you are...

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:51 am

Might be that the original game-industry people move less due to the huge sums they rake in from sales of rare game items.
We've moved three times in 8 years, and are moving again. I guess that makes me a vagrant. Or a network engineer. Do roots make an RPG player/collector? If so, I better settle down and design a game....

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:08 am

Xaxaxe wrote:

Okay, whatever you say. I'm not sure who are to be doing all of this judging, but, apparently, not all of us have picked your path to happiness or career success or financial security or whatever is important to you.

I work in an industry that often requires moving (literally) to move up (the fabled "ladder"). I won't bore you with my resume, but I also won't apologize for not meeting your standard of stability.

Sir, no judgement or condemnation imputed or implied. Your life history is just radically different than mine. It must suck to have to move so many times, that's all. I consider myself fortunate to be able to remember when the 30 foot Norwegian Spruce in my front yard was 10 feet high. I consider myself blessed to be able to enjoy the fruits of all of our landscaping labors. I raised two children in this house (for most of their years, anyway) and I'm glad that they feel like they are "coming home" when they come to visit. I delight in the fact that my grandkids know my house as well as they do.

If you took offense at my comments, sorry. None was intended.

I was simply commenting on how different mine was. I now that my experience is out of the ordinary. Heck, I've never ever minded being considered different our out of the ordinary (If I used the word extraordinary would you accuse me of overweening pride when what I mean is "out of the ordinary?); at certain stages of my life I took pride in the distinction.

When I wish to be mean-spirited, vindictive, sarcastic or condemning I am usually not misunderstood; I speak very plainly when circumstances warrant. None of those nuances were aimed at you.

I will no longer post on this thread.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:19 am

Thanks for your comments, K. To be clear, I thought the entire thread was getting a little negative, but I used some of your words as a convenient jumping-off point. That wasn't entirely fair on my part.

Actually, I probably would not have commented at all, except that by hosting the images of those three pages, I sort of felt "responsible" for this thread. Now that I type that, I see that it's not really rational. Message-board threads, as well all know, will often go wherever they feel like going.

Anyway, definitely no harm done either way, I think.

And I'm still interested in a question that probably will never be answered here: did this individual's obvious (if a little over-the-top) passion for the D&D game continue for a few more years or did he quickly grow out of it? Or, God forbid, is he still that passionate today?

Is he/was he that passionate about other aspects of his life? I have to admit, the whole thing sort of fascinates me.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:30 am

Kosh--where is the "D&D museum in Florida" you mentioned in the earlier post on this thread, and do they have a website I/we can access over the Internet?

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:12 pm

sleepyCO wrote:Kosh--where is the "D&D museum in Florida" you mentioned in the earlier post on this thread, and do they have a website I/we can access over the Internet?

Sorry wrong place. I thought it was to be a museeum but it is not (from the pics it should be though)

There is one in New York with a website:
http://rdushay.home.mindspring.com/Museum/Index.html

If you want to call it a museum

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:15 pm

Kosh Vorlontay wrote:
Sorry wrong place. I thought it was to be a museeum but it is not (from the pics it should be though)

There is one in New York with a website:
http://rdushay.home.mindspring.com/Museum/Index.html

If you want to call it a museum

And here I was thinking that you were refering to I/Os lair:

viewtopic.php?t=2657&highlight=lair

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:20 pm

I'd be really surprised if the guy didn't game for a long, long time after that rant. Anyone who can write that well at 13 years old has got more than rocks in their head, and with that kind of passion about the game, I'd put money on him gaming long after. My guess would be he created his own system though.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:38 pm

Wonder if "that system" he created would have been the "dreaded"

3rd edition or the 3.5 edition? :lol:

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:45 pm

GraysonAC wrote:Anyone who can write that well

Ok, just picking on Grayson because he's the last person that mentioned this point. He wasn't the only one.

Do you guys really consider that writing to be good? Even for a 13 year old?

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:13 pm

Why does this thread now sound like a H.P. Lovecraft story.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:58 pm

clangador wrote:Why does this thread now sound like a H.P. Lovecraft story.

I usually try not to alter my thread titles, but I liked the old one less and less.

deimos3428 wrote:Do you guys really consider that writing to be good? Even for a 13 year old?

This is just a guess (obviously), but it initially struck me as being written in a burst of energy, so I'd give him a little bit of a break for that. Still, I'm not sure I'd go as far as "good" ... as I've mentioned before, this manifesto strikes me as more passionate than skilled.

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:02 pm

deimos3428 wrote:Ok, just picking on Grayson because he's the last person that mentioned this point. He wasn't the only one.

Do you guys really consider that writing to be good? Even for a 13 year old?

I'm not sure I'd consider it good, but it is "interesting."

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:04 pm

Xaxaxe wrote:I usually try not to alter my thread titles, but I liked the old one less and less.

I have a theory. This guy is actually a Deep One. That's why he was so upset, and just used the changes from OD&D to AD&D for something to vent over.

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