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Post Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:07 pm 
 

I have a 1st ed, 2nd print PHB that used to belong to a Jim Perelman

He obtained this book when he was 13

He wrote a 3 page editorial on the flyleaves flaming Gary Gygax for messing up D&D. I would guess from his writing that he was woodgrain player.

Apparently he thinks 'hobbit' should be the correct term used instead of 'halfling'. This is according to his re-write of the entire handbook. There are notes and annotations galore in this book, whole paragraphs x'ed out and new ones written, tables that are described as "This table smokes farty eggs!", reworked spells and the spell progression tables are noteed as being wrong wiht a note refering to the "yellow ref cards" (JG 28 Judges Shield) and Alarums and Excursions. I did not know that 13 year olds had such a colorfull language set back then.  

It's hillarious :D .

Anyway, I just wanted to know if anyone knows, or knows of him. If you could get this out to your gaming circles/forums it would be cool to find him and return his "Edited" PHB to him :)

Another name written in it (inside cover) is Carol Perelman with a note above that says "Return to Hawk"

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:04 am 
 

A bell rang when you mentioned the name, but it might be a false alarm. The name seems VERY familiar.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:25 am 
 

Kosh...where did you find the book?  Was it in Puyallup, or did you get it from some other part of the country?


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:51 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Kosh...where did you find the book?  Was it in Puyallup, or did you get it from some other part of the country?




Good luck finding D&D items in POO-YALL-UP. Nope, I got it in an auction lot off ebay. Seller described it as having "some" writing in it.  8O  That redefined "some" for me. Sheesh



Anyway...seller was reberzack from GLENDALE, CA


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:54 am 
 

I have had good success by assuming that an individual might stay in the same region of the country and using an online phone book and some logical guesses.

James Perelman in California.

Sounds like he was older than 13 when he wrote in the book.

I love these kinds of notations and pieces of information.  To a romantic, they are like messages in a bottle.

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:08 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:I have had good success by assuming that an individual might stay in the same region of the country and using an online phone book and some logical guesses.

James Perelman in California.

Sounds like he was older than 13 when he wrote in the book.

I love these kinds of notations and pieces of information.  To a romantic, they are like messages in a bottle.

Mark


I would have to say he was 13, since he wrote it in a parenthetical right after his name.  If I can get the pages scanned I would like to get them posted here. I just need to figure out where to upload them and link them into a post.  Would make for some comical/interesting reading :)


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:56 am 
 

Kosh Vorlontay wrote:I just need to figure out where to upload them and link them into a post.

I'll host them for you — just email me a handful of the "best" pages.

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:10 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:I'll host them for you — just email me a handful of the "best" pages.

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Thanks, but it will have wait till 7am, I need some sleep (is it really 2:10am!?!?!) Blah, blah, blah.....zzzzzzzz


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:41 pm 
 

Threadjacking!

Okay, I'm hosting three scans from Kosh ... and they are frickin' hysterical.  :D

I felt they were worthy of their own thread, so point your clicker here.

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Post Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:04 am 
 

Bump

So....anyone know this guy...Frank?


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:35 pm 
 

Kosh Vorlontay wrote:

Good luck finding D&D items in POO-YALL-UP. Nope, I got it in an auction lot off ebay. Seller described it as having "some" writing in it.  8O  That redefined "some" for me. Sheesh

Anyway...seller was reberzack from GLENDALE, CA




There is one used book store by the South Hill Mall that sells used D&D stuff.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:46 pm 
 

clangador wrote:
There is one used book store by the South Hill Mall that sells used D&D stuff.


Been there, but they don't carry anything worthwhile plus they practically charge new book price on their used D&D books......anyway

Hey another Washingtonian, near me at that!


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:10 pm 
 

Ok...I bit.  This thread and story are incredibly rich to me.  I often wonder where the people are that wrote specific letters in Dragon magazine or that co-authored some of the obscure D&D material.  I always thought it would make for good fun to chase a few of these folks down and.....that is usually where the thought ends.  All I can think of then is to ask them if they still have some of their old D&D stuff they want to sell.   :lol:

Ok...Jim's name is very unusual.  I found only one so far in Nantucket, MA.  (508) 325-4782 is the number listed for him.  I nearly jumped to the phone to give it a shot but thought that honor should be reserved for the fellow with the book.  Good luck, from another fellow Washingtonian.  I will keep searching for a bit for more information on other Jim's of that name.

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PS.  The book you now have is priceless in my opinion.  YOu got it for a song and a dance.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:38 pm 
 

The Jim I listed above is not him, I fear.  I did find reference to a Carole Perelman in Bev Hills California that has a listed relative Jim P Perelman.  Here is the link to a site that scalps folks for more information:
http://find.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&searchform=name

Still zooming on this...


...and a very recent email addy on the Carole in BH, CA:
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:58 am 
 

This being America, it's entirely possible he is Jane Perelman now.
Has anyone asked the seller where the book was obtained? A little backtracking might narrow down the search.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:02 am 
 

Boreas wrote:The Jim I listed above is not him, I fear.

Just so I am clear on this . . . anyone looking up information on Jim Perelman is doing so for shits-n-grins only.  No one will contact him in any way whatsoever, and no one will post any non-public information.

Or have I thrown in my lot with some crypto-cyber-stalkers?   :D

  

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:54 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:
Or have I thrown in my lot with some crypto-cyber-stalkers?   :D


Whoa Tonya!


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:39 pm 
 

clangador wrote:
There is one used book store by the South Hill Mall that sells used D&D stuff.


I was at Half Price Books in Tacoma last night.  Yesterday, my best friend and I went on our annual jaunt to Portland.


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Post Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:40 pm 
 

Hello all,
I was googling Jim Perelman and found this thread...
It's been about 28 years since i first saw that Player's Handbook.
I knew Jim Perelman and played in his world.  

We were very good friends.  We went to high school together and got kicked out of high school together, we worked and played at the Renaissance Pleasure Faire together and then we lived together in Santa Cruz where we both went to college.  We did a bunch of other things together and shared some unique experiences that make me a good person to relate the strange story of Jim Perelman today...

First some info on Jim, for those who are interested (keep in mind it was a long time ago).  Jim lived in Tarzana when I met him through high school friends who played D&D with him.  He was 15 or 16 and I was 14 I think... and he was a genius gamer!   Jim's nickname for himself was "Attila the Hun" and when he got his first car, a green Toyota Celica, he had the personalized license plate "Attila H".  And he believed he was the reincarnation of Attila the Hun.  

We played ORIGINAL D&D (the boxed set and the 4 original extension books) and when the first "ADVANCED D&D" books were released we bought them up and adapted our play systems.  Jim also embraced the Arduin-Grimoire and incorporated it in his game and thought psionics was BS and never used it in his play.  As you may of noticed he did not think much of Gary Gygax...the rant was written the week after the Player's Handbook was released I think.  And you should have seen what he did to his Dungeon Master's Guide and Monster Manual (although he guarded his secrets carefully).  He also created his own game system with original hit charts, experience tables and incredibly detailed magic spells (much of it written with the same enthusiasm as his Gygax rant) and had a big notebook full of reference material that only a few people ever saw.

Our core group was a bunch of high school kids age 13-18 and this would be back around 1980.  Notably, we were featured in a Los Angeles Times article about D&D (front page of the Calendar section with Jim and I posed for the cameras).  It was a time when roleplaying was getting a bad rap in the press because of dumb and crazy kids playing for real and dying...anyone remember?  We met at each other's houses on the weekends, consumed junk food and played for hours and nobody got hurt.  He ran a great campaign, which was mostly role playing and less about the analytical dice rolling and hit points.  I played a bumbling cleric who was always healing the party from our battles.  I won't go into detail about the campaign other than to mention he used City State of the Invincible Overlord and Empire of the Petal Throne maps, altered original D&D modules and dungeon designs from the depths of his mind that were incredibly fun and creative (the "Pink Floyd" dungeon for instance).

Jim was not a psychotic, but was definitely "crazy" back then and we had a lot of fun being friends.  We stopped gaming and spent a lot more time doing other stuff as the group grew up and went to other schools and off to college and found other interests (girls and real life).  Jim went to Australia and sold kites on the beach for 6 months.  Jim moved up to Santa Cruz for college in 1982 and when I moved there in 1983, I lived with him in a house with 13-18 other people for about two years until he moved out.  I'm not sure he ever graduated, but I can acount for the Tarzana, Santa Cruz and Walnut Creek addresses during the time period 1980-1986.  After that our lives took different paths and I lost touch with him, but his friendship had a big influence on my life.

So if you read this Jim, or if you know how to contact him, have him drop me a line or give me a call.  It's great to know he's been immortalized in the world of the online roleplaying forums.

p.s. Carole was his older sister.

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Wow, that's pretty cool.

  
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