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Post Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:02 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:I don't know where the good men have gone, but the reason they're going is undoubtedly due to threads like this one.


very fair comment - when I started this thread it was meant to be rather more positive than it has been at times.

I've been recently going back over some old threads and it struck me how many guys have been regular posters on here, but seem to have disappeared.
Where are they now? Is this just natural wastage? Have they left the hobby? Did I say something to upset them? (Or did Deadlord say something to upset them?(J/K  )
My list isn't exhaustive but you get the picture - So are they MIA or have they just got a life?
Invincible Overlord (still posts at Dwarven forge I notice),  Gamesguy(funny guy!), McDuff, Nev, Draco (came back very briefly a while ago), Ralf Toth & Purpledragon (Deadlord?  ) and Johnhuck (seems to duck in and out of the forums) and of course Extsr (MIA at DF as well I believe)

This is not to suggest that those left are not 'good men', it just seemed like a snappy title for the thread!.


I've just reread my original post in its entirity - looky-looky, Gamesguy and Nev - perhaps it's just one of those cyclical things, as forums, and games-collections tend to be.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:51 pm 
 

ack, and EXTSR of course!


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:53 pm 
 

gyg wrote:FWIW , I think the thread of the title (and a definite cue for a song) says it all.)


Oh, THAT song! I was confusing it with this (much superior) one:
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:12 pm 
 

Wow, this thread turned into a pro vs. con for me.

For those of you who took the opportunity to tell me "good riddance", thanks. :lol:  :lol:  Without deluging into a flame war immediately upon my return, you don't matter and I'll leave it at that.

Except for this, because Mike actually matters:

Badmike wrote:#2 Brian the self-appointed forum cop I didn't enjoy as much...in case anyone doesn't remember he pretty much called Doug Rhea a thieving POS and never apologized or backed off that assumption.  I know for a fact he overstepped himself on that one and he lost a lot of my respect with that assumption.
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Mike,
 This is not entirely true.  Doug and I certainly had quite an issue for a while, however I never ever indicated that I thought Doug a thief.  I did however take issue with what I perceive to be his attempt to prop up prices for Dragon Magazine #1.  I failed to see(and still feel this way) how one individual buying up every single Dragon #1 or driving the bid up is good for anyone except for perhaps that individual.  IMO it's not good for the hobby. I'm not really interested in rehashing old arguments, I just wanted to set the record straight as far as that goes.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:13 pm 
 

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Your opinion, fair enough, but the forum as whole does not miss him at all and many rather rejoice in his absence.

I love it when people speak for anonymous "others" as they think it makes their point seem more genuine.  :lol:

Some things never change.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:16 pm 
 

Icar wrote:If this is the guy I am thinking of he suggested to me that charging anything more than exact postage was wrong. Even the cost of the envelop or box was too much. He also was angry that I didn't professionally grade every item I sold. Selling and buying needed to be taken with the utmost seriousness and done his way. Came off as a total douche to me. I remember thinking if this is the kind of asshole that hangs out here I am not sure I want to be here as well and I left.


Oh and this post is a 100% complete fabrication.


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:44 pm 
 

Damn glad to have you back, Bclarkie.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:42 pm 
 

Glad to have you back Brian.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:56 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Without deluging into a flame war immediately upon my return

I apparently got into one 37 seconds after I made my first post. I suspect that's not the record ;)

And welcome back! ... though I was largely unaware (due to my own ignorance on the subject) that you were gone. I've been told that you would have thrashed me hardest of all - I'd have liked the opportunity to see if I'd weather that storm calmly.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:41 pm 
 

Brian - I for one am glad you're back - It may only be 'opinion' (stated above) - but you are, in my book,  one of the 'good men', and can only make these forums a better place.

(and of course you bought my Orange B3 so I feel I kind of owe you for that :D .)

(when I say Orange B3 - it might not be quite what everyone here thinks!)


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:00 pm 
 

Although I don't matter, chuckle, gratz on the job and house.  Life is far more important than this stuff.

And, BC #1 must be one heck of a guy, because you certainly have had friends missing and defending you.  I hope to get to know that guy... instead of the BC #2 forum cop version again.

I am sorry that I took the opportunity for a cheap pot shot while you were away.  I am impressed with the succinct manner you responded.  

Some of your posts are remarkably helpful.  Like everyone here, I inevitably benefit from some of your research.

Welcome back, I think.  It certainly has been fairly quiet.  None of us actually want to get bored, I guess!


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:08 pm 
 

gyg wrote:(when I say Orange B3 - it might not be quite what everyone here thinks!)


Brian, you want to comment about his "orange B3?"  I can tell you right now, you are not seeing my "orange B3!"  8O  :wink:


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:20 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:
Mike,
 This is not entirely true.  Doug and I certainly had quite an issue for a while, however I never ever indicated that I thought Doug a thief.  I did however take issue with what I perceive to be his attempt to prop up prices for Dragon Magazine #1.  I failed to see(and still feel this way) how one individual buying up every single Dragon #1 or driving the bid up is good for anyone except for perhaps that individual.  IMO it's not good for the hobby. I'm not really interested in rehashing old arguments, I just wanted to set the record straight as far as that goes.


Fair enough.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:23 pm 
 

wavemotion wrote:I apparently got into one 37 seconds after I made my first post. I suspect that's not the record ;)

And welcome back! ... though I was largely unaware (due to my own ignorance on the subject) that you were gone. I've been told that you would have thrashed me hardest of all - I'd have liked the opportunity to see if I'd weather that storm calmly.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:13 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Oh and this post is a 100% complete fabrication.


Brian,

Good to see you are alive and well and not just lurking :-)

For the record I didn't give that post a moments thought.  Starting a conversation with 'If it is the person I am thing of ...' and then preceeding to run with that assumption and rubbish a persons name is poor form.

I will be visting the US/Canada this year so if you are around it would be great to catch up ....


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:44 am 
 

"If as a seller, it is too time consuming for you to sell your items properly, then IMO, maybe you shouldn't be selling them at all.  If its to difficult to properly sell your item and you insist on selling stuff anyway, then list everything you sell in Poor condition and also indicate that you will make no effort to package the items in away that will insure that they will arrive in good condition.  Set the expectation for your potential buyers that you really don't give a sh*t, and thereofre they will have nothing to complain about when they buy from you.  Granted, it will end up costing you as a seller some cash, but if you can't take the time to sell your items properly, you(in general, not specific) shouldn't really care what the end result is either.  Decide which way you want it, but you can't have it both ways."

Here is someone that wants to show me how to do things "properly" i.e.: his way. Also telling me how I can or can't have things. If I don't grade items "his way" I should mark them as poor condition so the buyer isn't disappointed. This is the asshat that I am referring to. He makes assumptions about my relationship with my customers and also makes assumptions about the quality of the items I am selling because it serves his need to appear on a high horse. I expect that this attitude didn't stop with me. Self-appointed, and demanding everyone answer to him. Acaeum's little J. Edgar Hoover without the credentials.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:13 am 
 

I think he's more like "Acaeums little"  Teddy Roosevelt. 8)


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:27 am 
 

Icar wrote:Here is someone that wants to show me how to do things "properly" i.e.: his way. Also telling me how I can or can't have things. If I don't grade items "his way" I should mark them as poor condition so the buyer isn't disappointed. This is the asshat that I am referring to. He makes assumptions about my relationship with my customers and also makes assumptions about the quality of the items I am selling because it serves his need to appear on a high horse. I expect that this attitude didn't stop with me. Self-appointed, and demanding everyone answer to him. Acaeum's little J. Edgar Hoover without the credentials.

And...we're back to 2006.

Icar unless you are "seatllesbest45" you've taken bclarkie's post completely out of context.  It was solid advice directed your way because you threw in your two cents foolishly trying to defend someone else's lousy business practices.  

On the other hand if that seller was you -- well, you got exactly what you deserved and should probably try to learn from that experience.  Here's the relevant details for those that want to reference the ancient discussion accurately.

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