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Post Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:20 pm 
 

Without Ebay there would not be much of an RPG collecting industry :?

Anyway I will jump in and say EBAY SUCKS!! as well :lol:


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:11 pm 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:I can hardly think of a negative thing to say about them.    You can do no wrong!  :D   8)   8)   :D   8)


How about the ridiculous categories for Dungeons and Dragons?  Individual cards anyone?  Or their far too lenient bid retraction policy?  I'm sick of bidders who place big bids scaring away all the watchers and then bid retract at the last moment so the item is back to its minimum bid.  According to eBay rules, if a bid retraction is placed for an incorrect bid amount, then the buyer is supposed to place a new, correct bid.  But eBay does not force, via software mechanism or lockout, the bidder to make a new bid.  As others here have pointed out time and again, eBay does not enforce its own rules.  
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd much rather go back to the old rec.games.frp.marketplace days.  There was more transparency in the bidding process and more community among the members.  Yes, it was more work to run the auctions, but I personally enjoyed it from a selling and bidding aspect.  Paypal has certainly made life easier for payment, but I'd certainly give a cheer if eBay closed tomorrow and we all went back to frp.marketplace, used the Acaeum marketplace or some other community mechanism for our buying and selling.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:29 am 
 

So now you guys have to get your tickets at eBay as well?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/biztech/ebay-snaps-up-online-ticket-scalper/2007/01/11/1168105093692.html

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:51 am 
 

Reindeergamez wrote:
It's funny you mention this, I was just noticing the same thing, doing a full inventory on my stock (Because it's the end of the year and it's been a LONG time) and I'm finding MANY items that I thought were listed that apparently had "timed out" despite my listing through Blackthorne with GTC as my choice.  Finding a TON of these in my slow categories especially, because I would never have noticed say a "GURPS" book that hadn't moved in 6 months since they sell so slowly anyway.  I have "caught" many of these problems through time in my quickly moving categories and at the time probably just blew them off as a personal error in missing relisting a duplicate item but now I wonder...


Oh man, bummer. This thing has nearly driven me to tears, hate to see another good seller go through it. I'm absolutely amazed at how badly eBay has f***ed me over this time with this problem. Checking some of my cateogories, literally 2/3 of the stuff that should have been there wasn't.

Hmm,  maybe the problem is with Blackthorne?  I don't use it and I don't have those issues . . .


Nope. Folks have had the problem with manual listings, Blackthorne, SMP.. it's an eBay problem, not a single program feature. And believe me, it's not user error, I've checked and tripled checked my own stuff.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:33 pm 
 

I had a strange eBay experience the last time that I listed which I was wondering if anybody else here ever encountered.



I had about twenty items listed, and one of them would not come up when I searched for it within ebay.ca but under ebay.com and ebay.uk it did.



It is the only time that I ever noticed that happening but will certainly be checking for it with any future listings.


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:26 am 
 

Something I just found out .. ebay doesn't let you add fedback after a user becaome unregistered.

What a great way for ebay to limit the amount a negative feedback and thus show the real damage the user caused.  8O


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:41 am 
 

improvstone wrote:Something I just found out .. ebay doesn't let you add fedback after a user becaome unregistered.

What a great way for ebay to limit the amount a negative feedback and thus show the real damage the user caused.  8O


yes i have noticed that before myself - it makes you wonder what their "think tank" is doing at the best of times really doesnt it?

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:06 am 
 

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yes i have noticed that before myself - it makes you wonder what their "think tank" is doing at the best of times really doesnt it?

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That has been in effect already--I ran into it about a year back when a seller, who had a "clean" record, failed to send me a module I won; he bailed out and I could not put in feedback or even report him for failure to send merchandise.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:56 pm 
 

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yes i have noticed that before myself - it makes you wonder what their "think tank" is doing at the best of times really doesnt it?

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'We think we are going to make loads of money ripping you off, tank you very much'


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:18 pm 
 

improvstone wrote:Something I just found out .. ebay doesn't let you add fedback after a user becaome unregistered.

I'm not looking to fan any flames or anything, but I have to admit that I don't see the problem here.

One thing about eBay declaring someone NARU: it is permanent. That person is done. Nothing anyone else can say — whether through positive or negative feedback — can change that. It's already over. So it seems sort of pointless to me to worry about adding to the feedback file of a user who is literally out of the picture.

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For the record, though, I've wanted to do this a couple of times in the past, so I can certainly understand the urge to do it. I'm just saying eBay's policy seems logical enough to me.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:13 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:I'm not looking to fan any flames or anything, but I have to admit that I don't see the problem here.

One thing about eBay declaring someone NARU: it is permanent. That person is done. Nothing anyone else can say — whether through positive or negative feedback — can change that. It's already over. So it seems sort of pointless to me to worry about adding to the feedback file of a user who is literally out of the picture.

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For the record, though, I've wanted to do this a couple of times in the past, so I can certainly understand the urge to do it. I'm just saying eBay's policy seems logical enough to me.



The problem I have is I don't really know what the 'no longer registered' flag means.  Did

1. ebay remove the seller/buyer because he was shifty?
2. Did the user leave on their own volition?
3. Was it a minor infingement or did the seller royally rip people off?

My problem is that eBay states the market is open but in reality the market is not open as information is constrained.  Additionally, the systems provide plenty of loopholes for shifty types to exploit.

With regard to adding feedback post.   Ithink there is a valid reason.  Take TGE for instance.  He has come back multiple times.  The information from previous auctions has helped track him each time he comes back.  He is just one example but I believe there are lots of shady sellers which have exploited the system multiple times.  The way the system is now it makes it hard to keep the bad ones out....


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:55 am 
 

Guys

Some advice please.

My better half has just started using ebay and recently won an item.  She payed for it via paypal.  Soon after the seller sent a message to her stating that the paypal account she sent the money to was wrong and that she should sent to another email account via paypal.

I checked the money was unclaimed which it was.  Cancelled the payment then sent a response to the seller stating that if the payment was in error it was because they had incorrectly setup their ebay account.  Fix the ebay account and payment would be resubmitted once the funds from the cancelled payment were recredited.  

The seller has since responded 1st with the same message via ebay then with a request for payment direct from paypal to this other account.  Given that the seller has not responded to two separate messages, except to send another invoice,  I do not trust them.  

Why would a seller not want to have the ebay account connected to the correct paypal account?


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:38 am 
 

Don't do it. The rules, and the benefits of following them, AND the risks of not doing so, are very clear.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:45 am 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:Don't do it. The rules, and the benefits of following them, AND the risks of not doing so, are very clear.


I agree just very strange.  This is a seller which has been selling for some time and has a clean record.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:59 am 
 

improvstone wrote:Guys

Some advice please.

My better half has just started using ebay and recently won an item.  She payed for it via paypal.  Soon after the seller sent a message to her stating that the paypal account she sent the money to was wrong and that she should sent to another email account via paypal.

I checked the money was unclaimed which it was.  Cancelled the payment then sent a response to the seller stating that if the payment was in error it was because they had incorrectly setup their ebay account.  Fix the ebay account and payment would be resubmitted once the funds from the cancelled payment were recredited.  

The seller has since responded 1st with the same message via ebay then with a request for payment direct from paypal to this other account.  Given that the seller has not responded to two separate messages, except to send another invoice,  I do not trust them.  

Why would a seller not want to have the ebay account connected to the correct paypal account?


Sounds like a hijacked account.  That is happening a lot lately. I say thee nay....sounds like trouble.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:21 pm 
 

Hi everyone,

I've been putting Bidpay as a payment option in my eBay auctions ever since I started on eBay over seven years ago.

Then tonight I stumble on this forum post saying that Bidpay went out of business and that eBay is randomly pulling auctions that list Bidpay and/or its logo as a method of payment.  However, I've never had this happen, and I recently had a buyer pay via Bidpay with no problems.  However, I have noticed that Bidpay no longer issues actual money orders but instead transfers the money directly into my bank account.

Can someone please let me know what the scoop is with Bidpay and eBay these days???

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:03 am 
 

Wandering Monster wrote:Hi everyone,

I've been putting Bidpay as a payment option in my eBay auctions ever since I started on eBay over seven years ago.

Then tonight I stumble on this forum post saying that Bidpay went out of business and that eBay is randomly pulling auctions that list Bidpay and/or its logo as a method of payment.  However, I've never had this happen, and I recently had a buyer pay via Bidpay with no problems.  However, I have noticed that Bidpay no longer issues actual money orders but instead transfers the money directly into my bank account.

Can someone please let me know what the scoop is with Bidpay and eBay these days???

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I haven't had a buyer use Bidpay in many years. I'd say it's not worth the chance Ebay pulls your listing to have it listed as a method of payment.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:58 am 
 

Hi Mike,

You had written:
Badmike wrote:
I haven't had a buyer use Bidpay in many years. I'd say it's not worth the chance Ebay pulls your listing to have it listed as a method of payment.

Mike B.


Well, thanks for the advice -- looks like I'm going to have to do some more ad editing...   :x

Anyone else have any advice/input?

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