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Post Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:45 am 
 

deimos3428 wrote:All I can suggest is that the sheet seems familiar to me.  I think I've seen it before, but I definitely don't have one on hand at the moment to verify.

It seems economically reasonable that they elected to create an errata sheet rather than a new printing, especially if they still had outstanding stock of the 5th printing.


That sounds reasonable as well . . . I guess I'm surprised that between here and DF, only one other person has indicated they have seen this before.  Granted, it may have only been in a few 5th printing box sets and would have been easily thrown away . . .  still.  

As I wrack my brain, I am pretty sure (like 90%) that I saw one several years ago in an Expert Set I sold.   I think I even took it out (maybe trashed it) as I couldn't identify it and didn't want a potential buyer to think it was a page that was ripped out.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:32 am 
 

I guess one question is which of the following Expert Set combinations exist:

(1) 4th print box set, with rulebook (1st version)
(2) 4th print box set, with rulebook (1st version) + errata sheet
(3) 4th print box set, with rulebook (revised)

(4) 5th print box set, with rulebook (1st version)
(5) 5th print box set, with rulebook (1st version) + errata sheet
(6) 5th print box set, with rulebook (revised)

Based on the above posts, Beyondthebreach's set would be #5, and Netrodents would be #6?  

#2 and #3 may not exist at all.

Based on a response in the DF thread, the Errata sheet may also have come in the Companion Set.

Another possibility is that it only came with the Companion Set, but some people stuck the sheet in the Expert Set.

Just throwing out ideas here. Please correct me if am wrong.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:46 pm 
 

zhowar wrote:Netrodent, did you carefully check all of the numbers in each table for differences? If so, you could have a rulebook from after the Errata was incorporated.


My first comment was a bit hasty.  I just finished a more thorough check and did find a two definite discrepancies:

1.  The saving throw vs. Rod/Staff/Spell for dwarves level 4-6 is 10 in my book, not 9 like on the mystery sheet.

2.  The titles for Elven experience levels are not divided by '/' in my book.

I also found two other things that might be differences or might just be a bad scan.  

3  The saving throw vs. Rod/Staff/Spell for fighters level 4-6 is a 14 in my book.  On the mystery sheet it appears to be an 11, which doesn't make sense since its 12 for fighters level 7-9.  Either its a typo in the errata, which would be very embarrasing, or its a bad scan.  

4.  The saving throw vs. Paralysis or Turn to Stone for clerics level 1-4 is 14 in my book while its appears to be an 11 on the mystery sheet.  This may be the same 11/14 scanning issue as I suspect from #3.

All of the other tables appear to be identical.

I'm not sure what to make of the errata listing for page 23.  The only comparison I have for prices is the Rules Compendium, in which the prices match those in my expert book without appending the extra zeroes as in the errata.   I can't draw any conclusion from comparing the stronghold prices with the ship prices.  The stronghold prices as printed in my book seem a bit too cheap compared to the ships, while after being multiplied by 100 seem a bit too expensive.

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:09 pm 
 

Well doing some auctions today I see that some tearout sheets/players handouts in modules have a number ending in X1501.
Probably an obvious thing but perhaps a date can be derived from these types of things since the Expert sheet has X0501.
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Post Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:02 am 
 

I finally got 'round to listing the Expert Set with the errata sheet.  Nothing special, but if any of you "completeists" are interested . . . there ya' go.  :wink:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0049021718



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Post Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:23 am 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:I finally got 'round to listing the Expert Set with the errata sheet.  Nothing special, but if any of you "completeists" are interested . . . there ya' go.  :wink:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


I know . . . $19.00 for an Expert Set . . . yikes!  But, ya' gotta remember I usually sell these items all the time to . . . less seasoned . . . collectors.  :)




Um..what Expert Set? :wink:



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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:42 am 
 

Hi,

I just found out about the expert set 1012XXX0501 errata sheet.  Were the rule updates just printed on 1 side of the sheet or both sides?  Does anyone have a scan of the sheet?  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:30 pm 
 

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           we recently made a purchase online (AD&D 1985 Battlesystem Rules set), and it included this original sheet with TSR printing code '1012XXX0501'. We believe this is from EXPERT Rules Boxed Set but are unsure. Clearly shows Dungeons & Dragons Expert tables?
Wanted to upload a copy of this 'GEM' for all to see & use. Was this page included in ALL boxed sets? I have Expert & Companion Rules box sets and it doesn't contain this sheet!!!! Any help would be appreciated.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:41 pm 
 

That is the errata sheet for the Expert Set.  It came with some of the later Expert boxed sets, but might have also been available separately.  You can find some info here:

https://acaeum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17501&c=1

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