Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 7 of 111234, 5, 6, 7, 891011
Author

User avatar

Sage Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 2655
Joined: Sep 25, 2007
Last Visit: Aug 06, 2022
Location: Southwest

Post Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:43 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:Thanks for sharing! I went through some of the earlier ones back when the link was posted on Grognardia, looking for the Holmes Basic set, but didn't find anything. It seems that D&D didn't get into these types of catalogs until a bit later. Though the coverage is spotty, so others might turn up.


Yeah I did the same thing in the 79-81 catalogs and then some later ones, but didn't find anything. It's interesting looking back through all the catalogs. I had forgotten about a lot of them, except for the Star Wars exclusives.

  

User avatar

Sage Collector

Posts: 2584
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Last Visit: Oct 29, 2022
Location: Seattle, WA

Post Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:42 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote:Grognardia did a retrospective on Shadowlord! I'd never heard of it before. It has promising looking artwork.


Shadowlord! is pretty cool.  I loved it as a kid and picked up a copy (cheap) on ebay in the last few years.  The box art in the ad wasn't the final art, though (unless there is more than one version).


Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games

  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:10 am 
 

Here's a Star Frontiers ad that takes us to the final frontier - the mall:
http://www.retroist.com/2009/05/19/1983 ... ntiers-ad/
I guess it's a reference to the city map included with the game, centered around a mall containing a hobby shop so your characters can go buy more copies of Star Frontiers. Once they get there, you can use this game as tactical-scale terrain - Electronic Mall Madness (now available in Hannah Montana edition):
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5086 ... ll-madness
Or just use it for a Logan's Run scenario.

  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:17 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote in Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs:Here's another ad. Later (Wizard Logo) but much odder:

[ Image ]

I don't know where it was published. The image was hosted on a "vintage e-card" website several years ago.


Has the source of this ad ever been found?

  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:41 pm 
 

Not that I know of. A magazine would be the most likely source, but I don't have any specific info.

I'd almost forgotten about this thread!


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:46 am 
 

Zenopus wrote in Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs:I'd almost forgotten about this thread!


I haven't. This ad in particular continues to haunt my dreams:
Image

  


Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5736
Joined: Nov 16, 2002
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Wichita, KS, USA

Post Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:52 pm 
 

Here's a later-era 1999 Silver Anniversary catalog entry discussion of an unreleased GH product: unreleased Silver Anniversary Greyhawk product?


Allan Grohe ([email protected])
Greyhawk, grodog Style

Editor and Project Manager, Black Blade Publishing
https://www.facebook.com/BlackBladePublishing/

 WWW  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:11 pm 
 

Chris of Hill Cantons has tracked down the source of some unusual D&D ads, one of which was previously featured on the very first page of this thread.
They ran in Omni magazine in late 1980, and there were at least three in the series, one of which I hadn't seen before:

D&D Omni style


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:18 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote in Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs:Chris of Hill Cantons has tracked down the source of some unusual D&D ads, one of which was previously featured on the very first page of this thread.
They ran in Omni magazine in late 1980, and there were at least three in the series, one of which I hadn't seen before:

D&D Omni style



I found two of the three ads: [edit: now all three]

Oct/80 pink/ motorcycle, in French
Nov/80 pink/ motorcycle, in English
Dec/80 blue/ with table, in German
Jan/81 pink/table, in English
Mar/81 green/spacemen, in Hsilgne
Apr/81 green/spacemen, in English

Have you been able to find all three? I don't see the one with spacemen.


Last edited by sauromatian on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:24 pm 
 

No, I didn't look - I was just going by what Chris said.


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:35 pm 
 

The spacemen are Mar-Apr/81. I should have noticed the face logo.

  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:05 am 
 

That makes sense, since the B/X sets weren't released until January 1981, and that ad shows pictures of them. Thanks for looking up the issues.


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:08 pm 
 

Warduke and Strongheart Halloween costumes from 1984, pages scanned from a Playco catalog and posted on the 2 Warps to Neptune bog:

1984 Placo Toys Catalog: Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Playsets


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  


Sage Collector

Posts: 2339
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Far Harad, Texas

Post Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:16 pm 
 

Zenopus wrote in Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs:That makes sense, since the B/X sets weren't released until January 1981, and that ad shows pictures of them. Thanks for looking up the issues.


C2 Inverness has a face logo, but a 1980 copyright. A1 Slavers has a later stock number, but a wizard logo. (Don't even ask about X1 Isle of Dread.)

  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1686
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Last Visit: Nov 20, 2022
Location: Portown

Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:06 pm 
 

New post on my blog going through TSR's ads in Boy's Life magazine in the late '70s to early '80s. Some of these ads have been posted in this thread before.

TSR Ads in Boy's Life 1977-1982


Zenopus Archives website & blog: Exploring the Underworld of Holmes Basic D&D. Holmes Ref: Reference Sheets for Holmes Basic Referees, also compatible with OD&D plus the Greyhawk supplement

 WWW  

User avatar

Verbose Collector

Posts: 1372
Joined: Nov 03, 2008
Last Visit: Jul 01, 2020
Location: My Pad

Post Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:35 pm 
 

To possibly answer grodog's query from the comments on Zenopus' blog on the 'black banner' modules on the back of the Holmes box...

When I was working in a small advertising firm back in the mid 80s, it was common practice to design and assemble a mock-up (imitation) of a finished piece for photo-ops/advertising purposes or just to give the client an idea what the finished piece would look like before the final product was even sent to press. Part of the process often involved setting the flats in 'layers', that is, the base text and such on the primary board (with a non-repro blue grid), and successive layers on clear acetate, perhaps using amber- or rubylith cuts. When doing a combined image to get rid of the layers (like flattening an image in photoshop), the whole would get shot on a stat camera, or if on the cheap, a copier. Thing is, neither could be told to reverse images from the overlay. So, a piece of amberlith intended to be knocked out (printed white) at the press shows up as black on the mock-up piece.

So, if I am correct, these 'pre-production' prints are simply mock-ups made for the photo, and no such 'printing' actually exists.


Art of dragons doing what dragons do. Site of a friend. Dragonstuff

  


Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5736
Joined: Nov 16, 2002
Last Visit: Nov 26, 2022
Location: Wichita, KS, USA

Post Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:48 am 
 

SimperingToad wrote in Early TSR/D&D advertisements & catalogs:
grodog on Zenopus Archives wrote:It's interesting that the black-banner B1 appears in the 2nd and 3rd ads, but is replaced by the 4th ad. I wonder if that helps at all with trying to nail down its existence further? The ads span from Sept 1979 to April 1980, which are well after B1 was supposed to have been published in 1978, per B1 & B2 so I wonder if either the Acaeum dates are wrong, or if in fact the black banner versions were sold in prior to Nov 1978 and the Holmes 2nd edition/4th printing sets.

I'll do some digging this weekend to see what I can find among my TSR catalogs/sell sheets/etc. to see if there's any further help on this dates-wise.


To possibly answer grodog's query from the comments on Zenopus' blog on the 'black banner' modules on the back of the Holmes box...
[snip]
So, if I am correct, these 'pre-production' prints are simply mock-ups made for the photo, and no such 'printing' actually exists.


Hmmm, rats.  I was hoping that this would show that they were available.  I didn't carve out time to dig through my catalogs, distributor order forms, etc. over the weekend to see if there was any evidence that B1 (or B2 for that matter) was being sold earlier than Sept 1979, but will try to do so soon.


Allan Grohe ([email protected])
Greyhawk, grodog Style

Editor and Project Manager, Black Blade Publishing
https://www.facebook.com/BlackBladePublishing/

 WWW  

User avatar

Prolific Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 593
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Last Visit: Jul 01, 2022
Location: Alabama

Post Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:07 am 
 

I don't really follow all the ads, but this lot shows a version of the Rules Cyclopedia that I've not see before.

I thought some here might be interested.  The price doesn't look too bad for someone collecting these.


** expired/removed eBay auction **


Carpe DM!

  
PreviousNext
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 7 of 111234, 5, 6, 7, 891011