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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:51 am 
 

It is paladin in hell.  I have not heard of it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Wondering if any of you could comment on it?

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:36 am 
 

brogleo wrote:It is paladin in hell.  I have not heard of it...

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Wondering if any of you could comment on it?
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BRenfrow's TSR Archive has a picture of it here.
  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:11 pm 
 

brogleo wrote:It is paladin in hell.  I have not heard of it...

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Wondering if any of you could comment on it?
Thanks




Being a 2nd edition module I have never played it since I stopped playing back in '92.  However I have read through it a couple of times and it looks like a lot of fun.  Cant go wrong with helping a dead paladin defend a temple that has been displaced to the 5th plane of Hell.
  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:19 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
Being a 2nd edition module I have never played it since I stopped playing back in '92.  However I have read through it a couple of times and it looks like a lot of fun.  Cant go wrong with helping a dead paladin defend a temple that has been displaced to the 5th plane of Hell.


Good deal, thanks for the info.  It is up for auction at Ebay and looked promising.  I just didnt see any info on it.
  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:59 pm 
 

That particular picture of the paladin in hell always bugged me, even when it was in a different form in the AD&D books.

The paladin is holding his shield upside down and sideways.  That isn't a buckler, its a shield.  The straps on the shield should be placed so the left arm is on the horizontal, not vertical.  Also, when he brings his arm down, the shield will hold his arm pointing straight down and effectively trap it there.  He can't fight with it that way unless he holds his arm up at an awkward angle...as depicted...which would cause blows to glance off it and into his head and neck.  He certainly could not use his shield like that from horseback, and it would be an active hindrance on foot, where he would quickly become exhausted.  The only way the grip depicted could possibly work is if the shield had been round.

It is a strange artistic oversight when the armor is so well drawn.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:04 pm 
 

Perhaps it's a +3 Shield of Pointy End To The Side.
I haven't known a great deal of fantasy artists, but the ones I have known almost invariably have no knowledge of the proper use of weapons and armor. But they draw well.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:25 pm 
 

Sometimes, ya know, you gotta go with the artistic license. Maybe the original artist (DCSIII if I'm not mistaken) just didn't like the balance if he drew the paladin holding the shield correctly.
  

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:01 pm 
 

Anyone holding a shield like that in melee would be off balance and very vulnerable to an attack on the shield itself...as the picture does show.  Maybe the guy's just supposed to be an idiot?  He does have his church in hell, which seems like carelessness at the very least.   :)


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:33 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Anyone holding a shield like that in melee would be off balance and very vulnerable to an attack on the shield itself...as the picture does show.  Maybe the guy's just supposed to be an idiot?  He does have his church in hell, which seems like carelessness at the very least.   :)


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:23 pm 
 

It's a sickness.   :lol:


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:26 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Anyone holding a shield like that in melee would be off balance and very vulnerable to an attack on the shield itself...as the picture does show.  Maybe the guy's just supposed to be an idiot?  He does have his church in hell, which seems like carelessness at the very least.   :)


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