Llaurenela wrote:Right while you have all of these early D&D items going for really high prices you have one like this 1st Original Dungeons and Dragons Books Gygax Arneson that goes for a relatively low price. This seems quite strange to me, since I have seen just the 3 books with an even more bare bones write up go for considerably more. Go figure!

Here is my two cents worth:

1) No box or reference sheets.

2) Books are in so-so condition.

3) Seller is one of those Ebay consignment stores.

4) Fiend Folio dragged the price down.  

Kingofpain89 wrote:

Llaurenela wrote:Right while you have all of these early D&D items going for really high prices you have one like this 1st Original Dungeons and Dragons Books Gygax Arneson that goes for a relatively low price. This seems quite strange to me, since I have seen just the 3 books with an even more bare bones write up go for considerably more. Go figure!

Here is my two cents worth:
1) No box or reference sheets.
2) Books are in so-so condition.
3) Seller is one of those Ebay consignment stores.
4) Fiend Folio dragged the price down.  

d'ya know KOP...youre pretty good sometimes      



pretty spot on comment tho. cept the fiend folio prb helped it along



Al

faro wrote:

Kingofpain89 wrote:

Llaurenela wrote:Right while you have all of these early D&D items going for really high prices you have one like this 1st Original Dungeons and Dragons Books Gygax Arneson that goes for a relatively low price. This seems quite strange to me, since I have seen just the 3 books with an even more bare bones write up go for considerably more. Go figure!

Here is my two cents worth:
1) No box or reference sheets.
2) Books are in so-so condition.
3) Seller is one of those Ebay consignment stores.
4) Fiend Folio dragged the price down.  

Good analysis. ^^

$46 still wasn't that cheap compared with $51 + my push on  
** expired/removed eBay auction **


1) Has a box: clean, but with a bit of bashing. Still no ref sheets, though
2) Books are in good, clean, VF condition with no staple rust - and 6th print, not 7th
3) Seller wasn't a consignment store
4) And you didn't have to buy a Fiend Folio, either.

Having said that, I've seen just the three books go for considerably more, too. Impatient buyers, I guess.

There probably wont be many people who agree with me on this but consider one thing:  PayPal only auctions.  I know most people here dont share my negative views of PayPal but when you limit yourself to only allow one possible means of payment, you also limit your potential bidders.  There are a lot of people like myself out there that dont want to mess around with PayPal and look for auctions that allow payment via check and money order as well.  Hell, I wont even bother looking at an auction that is PayPal only.  As someone already said...another item just like it will pop up on Ebay sooner or later.  And odds are PayPal wont be the only payment option either.



Now I havent done any extensive research on the matter but it was the only other variable that wasnt mentioned before and seems pretty logical.

I've never understood this sentiment from potential buyers.

For buyers, PayPal has no fees and much built-in buyer protection. It actually costs you more money to write a check (those have to be re-ordered), get a money order (at least 89 cents in most places), or get a cashier's check (at least $4 at most banks) than it does to use PayPal.

For sellers, of course, there are some different factors. Fees being the biggest complaint (along with a dispute policy that heavily favors buyers).

+++++

For the record, I accept all forms of payment on my auctions, and I always have. I don't think I've changed the text on my "payment options" paragraph once in the last eight years (except to add PayPal and eliminate Billpoint, of course).

I'm just mystified by much of the anti-PayPal sentiment I read here.

Xaxaxe wrote:I'm just mystified by much of the anti-PayPal sentiment I read here.

It's no different than if I went to a restaurant that you liked and had a bad experience.  Even though you love to eat there and have never had a problem, I wont ever go back because I thought it sucked.

I used PayPal 5 or 6 times in one year.  In three of those instances I was not able to pay the person because of some glitch.  Either they could not accept the payment for some reason or it didnt show up in their account.  What should have amounted to 5 minutes of my time turned into an hour dealing with PayPal support and the seller trying to figure out what happened.  It was one of those frustrating experiences that I figured I was really better off not having to deal with.

I guess some of my venom against PayPal also is due to the fact that Ebay owns them.  Conflict of interest on a huge scale if you ask me.

MShipley88 wrote:Are they the type that wants to stick it to The Man?  Are they inclined to disputes and grudges?  Are they disorganized?

Mark  

Hey!  That's me!!!

Um, I think that last line is (c) Couga Rinard, Awl Rites Resurfed. Even if it IS your only neg.

ExTSR wrote:Um, I think that last line is (c) Couga Rinard, Awl Rites Resurfed. Even if it IS your only neg.

You peeked!

Heh... I was just trying out Xax's new secret sig language: "Cougar's can't", or whatever it was he called it.
Hope he gets the message or else I'll never see that VGC M-Bag again...

OK, Just wanted to make a few concrete points on this about paypal/money order

For The BUYER:

1.  Money Orders cost 49 cents at Wallmart which are everywhere (I know but Wallmart is a big evil corporation unlike Paypal, right? lol) Many Banks Credit/Union will provide customers a money order free of charge.

2. Money orders are traceable and if a seller rips you off, you do have real buyer protection.. Its called Federal Mail Fraud which is a Felony and not hard to pursue legally thru the local Post Master unlike Paypals vague and inconsistant " buyer protection"

3. Many sellers do not sell often on ebay, have an online store or consider selling on ebay a full time job, so they really dont want to be bothered by paypals fees, glitches and b.s because they dont sell that often

4. If a seller has something rare that you really want, what difference does an extra 0.49 - .99 cents for a money order make, just figure it in to the total price your are willing to bid like you would shipping. If that is a major problem for you, then by all means feel free to skip the auction ( this is how alot of smart bidders actually get really good deals on auctions that dont take paypal though because many potential buyers WILL NOT bid)

5.  Ultimately the seller sets their own terms of sell and types of payments accepted. If you disagree, Dont take it personally, just move on.

FOR SELLERS:

1. Like wise, many potential bidders do not spend alot of time shopping on ebay, some people may only bid a few times per year, when they are looking for a certain item that they need or are just plain bored and remember that they have an ebay account, they come into some extra cash they want to throw away or maybe they just saw one of those great snazzy Brand New Ebay commercials.( Contrary to some peoples ebay obsessiveness, not everyone is an Ebayaholic)

2. I have never met any seller or personally heard of anyone being ripped off by a stolen or fake money, Im sure it happens but compared to Paypals policy? If you feel suspicious about a money order, then take it to the bank or post office and have it validated.

3. Particullarly with older people, just figuring out how the internet works is quite a challenge let alone understanding paypal. Some older people take immense pride in thier stubborness and ignorance and refuse to change or adapt. Many sellers have had bad experiences with paypal in the past and from thier viewpoint would just like to keep things simple and only deal with money orders and are willing to accept that thier items may sell for much less than if they also accepted paypal.


 Just my 2 cents worth!