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Post Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:36 pm 
 

I found this interesting item in a lot of stuff I got awhile back. It consists of a 16 page booklet detailing the PBM world of "Talarn, Land of Challenge", and various rules for the game.  Included are copies of the 1st edition PHB reference sheet (on back cover) and spell lists (inside back cover), and it was published in 1985, so it's definitely a 1st edition item.  Cover is by Elmore, it looks like it was recycled from another product but can't be sure.  Does anyone have any info on this: Did you play in the PBM?  HOw long did it last?  I suspect these are very rare as this is the first one I have ever seen.

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:59 pm 
 

The only one I ever saw auctioned was by Stormber - I believe Ralf Toth won it for around $50.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:20 am 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:The only one I ever saw auctioned was by Stormber - I believe Ralf Toth won it for around $50.


I just read through it.  It is a VERY cool item, I really think it deserves a mention/reference on the Acaeum pages, since it's rooted in 1st edition AD&D and seemed to have TSR's blessing (Harold Johnson was the "technical advisor").  Definitely a collectible item IMO.

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Badmike wrote:I found this interesting item in a lot of stuff I got awhile back. It consists of a 16 page booklet detailing the PBM world of "Talarn, Land of Challenge", and various rules for the game.  Included are copies of the 1st edition PHB reference sheet (on back cover) and spell lists (inside back cover), and it was published in 1985, so it's definitely a 1st edition item.  Cover is by Elmore, it looks like it was recycled from another product but can't be sure.  Does anyone have any info on this: Did you play in the PBM?  HOw long did it last?  I suspect these are very rare as this is the first one I have ever seen.

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I always love little niche items like this.  The rarity must be high, but since they are so rare they are very seldomly offered for auction or not given the credit they deserve. Most of these PBM items I'm sure were tossed out. Below is another nifty item I'm surprised isn't more collectible, again I think most of these were tossed out after NWN was shut down in it's first incarnation:

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:09 am 
 

Adding the PBM is on my list of things to do.  It's been sitting in the archives for, oh, like three years now.  :(

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:55 am 
 

FoulFoot wrote:Adding the PBM is on my list of things to do.  It's been sitting in the archives for, oh, like three years now.  :(

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If you need any further info, Foul, let me know, the set I have looks pretty complete, or if you just want to compare copies.  Although I suspect you probably have all the info you need!

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:11 am 
 

* rummages *

Actually, I have nothing but the scan!  Thought I had some additional info around here somewhere, but it appears it was lost in the great hard drive crash of 1982, or something.

Your scan is identical to mine, but yours is a bit cleaner.  Mind if I use yours instead?  And any additional info would be appreciated.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:33 am 
 

That darn thing is all kinds of rare.  It's been on my casual search list for quite a few years now and never seems to turn up.  I believe Mike Kuo had one or two copies many years back and I think one of our other Mikes picked one up a couple of years ago.  It seems the key to finding one is to not look for it.   :roll:

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:52 am 
 

If I am not mistaken it is written by Jim Dutton of Entertainment Concepts who did the Silverdawn PBM.  I think TSR commissioned him to do it after Silverdawn had already come out.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:16 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
Badmike wrote:I found this interesting item in a lot of stuff I got awhile back. It consists of a 16 page booklet detailing the PBM world of "Talarn, Land of Challenge", and various rules for the game.  Included are copies of the 1st edition PHB reference sheet (on back cover) and spell lists (inside back cover), and it was published in 1985, so it's definitely a 1st edition item.  Cover is by Elmore, it looks like it was recycled from another product but can't be sure.  Does anyone have any info on this: Did you play in the PBM?  HOw long did it last?  I suspect these are very rare as this is the first one I have ever seen.

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I always love little niche items like this.  The rarity must be high, but since they are so rare they are very seldomly offered for auction or not given the credit they deserve. Most of these PBM items I'm sure were tossed out. Below is another nifty item I'm surprised isn't more collectible, again I think most of these were tossed out after NWN was shut down in it's first incarnation:

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:33 am 
 

I see the America Online logo, and I know that Neverwinter was a popular part of AOL in the 90s, so I'm assuming some sort of tie-in product is pictured. A home version of the AOL game, maybe?

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:31 am 
 

I've seen a couple Play-by-Mails. They're pretty rare.


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:09 am 
 

Useta play some NWN when it was on AOL; I think SSI did spin off the home-pooter version.

And they used MY artwork too. :/ (from Needle)

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:50 am 
 

I know i sold one of those PBM books on ebay years ago, i think to  Uwe Siebel. Can't remember where i got it from though. I'll try to locate the source by going through my old notes. Do you have the TSR item number of it?



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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:57 am 
 

Badmike wrote: Cover is by Elmore, it looks like it was recycled from another product but can't be sure.


Mike - just to clarify, that's the artwork from the D&D Companion Set, though the image is reversed left-to-right (at least from the Acaeum scan), and the border is red instead of turquoise.

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/setpage ... anion.html

Also, here's some 2002 threads on the Talaran PBM game:
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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:07 pm 
 

FoulFoot wrote:* rummages *

Actually, I have nothing but the scan!  Thought I had some additional info around here somewhere, but it appears it was lost in the great hard drive crash of 1982, or something.

Your scan is identical to mine, but yours is a bit cleaner.  Mind if I use yours instead?  And any additional info would be appreciated.

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I'll send you all the specs Foul as soon as I have the time...I'll also post here for anyone interested.  For what it's worth, the package seems to consist of a 16 pge booklet, a cardboard sheet entitled "The AD&D Play By Mail Game" which has the instructions by ECI (Entertainment Concepts); Fellowship position character creation instructions; Fellowship Postion character sheet; Hero Position character sheet.  Apparantly you got points to either create one bad ass character for adventuring (ala Conan) or a party of four characters of lesser ability/level (ala traditional adventuring type party, I guess you would get a fighter, mage, cleric and thief). The 16 page booklet contains the details and is firmly rooted in 1st edition AD&D.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:08 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
FoulFoot wrote:* rummages *

Actually, I have nothing but the scan!  Thought I had some additional info around here somewhere, but it appears it was lost in the great hard drive crash of 1982, or something.

Your scan is identical to mine, but yours is a bit cleaner.  Mind if I use yours instead?  And any additional info would be appreciated.

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I'll send you all the specs Foul as soon as I have the time...I'll also post here for anyone interested.  For what it's worth, the package seems to consist of a 16 pge booklet, a cardboard sheet entitled "The AD&D Play By Mail Game" which has the instructions by ECI (Entertainment Concepts); Fellowship position character creation instructions; Fellowship Postion character sheet; Hero Position character sheet.  Apparantly you got points to either create one bad ass character for adventuring (ala Conan) or a party of four characters of lesser ability/level (ala traditional adventuring type party, I guess you would get a fighter, mage, cleric and thief). The 16 page booklet contains the details and is firmly rooted in 1st edition AD&D.

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Oh, and yes Foul, you can use my scan, I'll also send you some interior scans for reference.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:10 pm 
 

blackdougal wrote:That darn thing is all kinds of rare.  It's been on my casual search list for quite a few years now and never seems to turn up.  I believe Mike Kuo had one or two copies many years back and I think one of our other Mikes picked one up a couple of years ago.  It seems the key to finding one is to not look for it.   :roll:


This one's discovery was indeed serendipitous. It was shoved into a Basic Box set blue expert box with some other goodies like monster treasure assortment, Dungeon Masters log, and Rogues gallery.

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:12 pm 
 

Mars wrote:If I am not mistaken it is written by Jim Dutton of Entertainment Concepts who did the Silverdawn PBM.  I think TSR commissioned him to do it after Silverdawn had already come out.


Correct. Jim and Elizabeth Dutton are listed as the Designers, programmers and "rules".

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:22 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:Useta play some NWN when it was on AOL; I think SSI did spin off the home-pooter version.

And they used MY artwork too. :/ (from Needle)


That Needle artwork pops up everywhere...IIRC it's also the cover for the sixth print (2nd edition) of Rogue's Gallery.

It looks like a home spinoff of the Neverwinter Nights game; it only has one floppy so it's not very big.  Includes a letter from AOl and the usual Gold Box stuff like rulebook, adventurers journal, etc.  The letter explains how to go to AOL Neverwinter Nights and play online.  Does anyone that played online remember if you needed software to access NWN?  Or did you just download from the site?  The instructions seem to suggest you need this software to help in the online game, or maybe it just enhances the game (you get something called a vault where you can store items offline if you so choose). This is the only one I've ever seen, very cool item.
  From what I recall the big draw of NWN was killing other player characters, and finding ways to cheat by altering code  :roll:

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