mbassoc2003 wrote:I assume you are a US Citizen and haven't had first hand experience of the level of fraud on eBay, and the level to which eBay and PayPal protects the US citizen against the rest of the underworld.
Xaxaxe wrote:Being a U.S.-based seller is not a magical exemption from the threat of fraud.
Beyondthebreach wrote:<EDIT> In light of Ian's above edit , this post of mine now seems unnecessary. I guess I'll leave it up though, as the part about US seller's risk for fraud is at least relevant. <EDIT>
Deadlord39 wrote:Well, there is a definite argument for NOT leaving auto feedback as a seller. I just got negged by a buyer who was not only late in paying, he didn't buy any sort of tracking or insurance. When the package didn't show up, I asked the PO to do a trace. They couldn't find it. I refunded the guy 99 cents for the auction PLUS the $4.05 shipping, no questions asked, no stipulations. This was weeks ago. Today, I get a neg.I don't care overmuch about the neg, I'm a network engineer, not a pro eBay seller. But it certainly does irritate me that I am out a module after I went against my clearly stated rules and refunded the whole shebang to the ass bandit.
killjoy32 wrote:Deadlord39 wrote:Well, there is a definite argument for NOT leaving auto feedback as a seller. I just got negged by a buyer who was not only late in paying, he didn't buy any sort of tracking or insurance. When the package didn't show up, I asked the PO to do a trace. They couldn't find it. I refunded the guy 99 cents for the auction PLUS the $4.05 shipping, no questions asked, no stipulations. This was weeks ago. Today, I get a neg.I don't care overmuch about the neg, I'm a network engineer, not a pro eBay seller. But it certainly does irritate me that I am out a module after I went against my clearly stated rules and refunded the whole shebang to the ass bandit.frank...well thats exactly what i am talking about.really pisses me off. not that it bothers me from a feedback perspective, but its just WRONG. youve done nothing wrong and yet you still get stiffed for it anywayAl
mbassoc2003 wrote:Has the seller got a reputation for this? I take it the seller has an otherwise clean record?
Used paypal, item not sent, over 5 emails produced no results. "BAD" ebay'er
Seller is very questionable! Did not send item. Unscrupulous. Buyer beware!!
Seller has not delivered paid items and has not replied to emails and faxes
paid for item dec 02 2004 have never received want answer my emails sent many
mbassoc2003 wrote:Under eBay Help do a search for 'request contact information'. There is a form somewhere where you enter your eBay name and password and the item number of the transaction you are involved in, and the system sends both party's addresses and phone numbers to bot the people involved.It's no good if the seller has enterred fals info, but it's the only info eBay have and if the seller has a lot of feedback there's a fair chance the contact info will be sound.Here's a link... Electronics, Cars, Fashion, Collectibles & More | eBay. It's the fourth form down.
Kingofpain89 wrote:killjoy32 wrote:Deadlord39 wrote:Well, there is a definite argument for NOT leaving auto feedback as a seller. I just got negged by a buyer who was not only late in paying, he didn't buy any sort of tracking or insurance. When the package didn't show up, I asked the PO to do a trace. They couldn't find it. I refunded the guy 99 cents for the auction PLUS the $4.05 shipping, no questions asked, no stipulations. This was weeks ago. Today, I get a neg.I don't care overmuch about the neg, I'm a network engineer, not a pro eBay seller. But it certainly does irritate me that I am out a module after I went against my clearly stated rules and refunded the whole shebang to the ass bandit.frank...well thats exactly what i am talking about.really pisses me off. not that it bothers me from a feedback perspective, but its just WRONG. youve done nothing wrong and yet you still get stiffed for it anywayAlI have a similar situation with a bit of a twist. I won an auction over a month ago from what I could tell was a reputable seller. I sent a money order the very next day and waited. I am a patient person and I dont expect every seller to email me when they receive payment, ship the item, etc. But if there is a problem, I expect them to do something as the "ball" is now in the sellers court. I waited three weeks and heard nothing. I sent an email asking if they had received the payment and if so if they had shipped the item. No response. I waited another week or so and sent a follow-up email.During this time I noticed that the seller had received neutral feedback from a recent transaction. I emailed the buyer that left the neutral. The buyer stated that he waited a month and never received the item. He emailed the seller several times and didnt get a response until he notified Ebay. Once Ebay got involved the seller sent the item. I went back and checked some of his neutral and the few negatives he had. In every case, the buyer left the non-positive feedback because the seller never sent the item and didnt communicate to the buyer. Only once was retaliatory feedback left for the buyer.After several days I finally received a reply to my second email. The reply said "item has not been shipped because we havent received payment". That's it...nothing else. Most sellers would send an email asking where the payment was after a week or so. Why the heck did this seller not do that? I was pretty pissed off but I refrained from sending him a scalding retort. Instead I sent him a reply acting completely shocked and surprised. But I did ask why I never got a non-paying bidder notice. Guess what...never got a reply back. Since I saved the money order stub I told the seller that I would start tracking on the money order to see if it was cashed or not. This had happened before a couple of times and as soon as the word "tracking" comes up the seller has miraculously "found" the money order and sent my item. This guy didnt care one way or the other.I normally save all of my money order stubs in case something like this should happen...unfortunately I left it on the mantle and my fiance threw it away when she was cleaning. First time for everything I guess. Here is my dilemma: Should I leave a neg or just forget about the whole thing? I have forgotten to pay once before and politely apologized and made up for my mistake. The seller was understanding about it and everything went fine. This particular seller didnt bother to let me know, probably because he got my money order and just cashed it hoping that I did throw away the stub so I couldnt do anything about it. I want to neg him just because he is a shitty seller even if he actually didnt receive the payment. I dont mind a retaliatory neg since I think I am justified but reading some of these posts from sellers I wanted to get a few opinions.Oh and please no comments like "you should use PayPal". That is not even an option. I would rather stop buying on Ebay altogether.
