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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:35 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:OK, enough beating up on STD. The thread is about grandmasters...

Unfortunately he keeps sticking his neck out ...

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:16 pm

improvstone wrote:
Unfortunately he keeps sticking his neck out ...

Well lop it off with a flaming two-handed axe so it don't grow back :twisted:

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:45 pm

Agreed, he is, well, kind of like herpes. Never quite goes away.............
But the topic was Grandmasters.

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:54 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:But the topic was Grandmasters.

Given the topic was started several years ago how has the landscape changed? Who are the current grandmasters?

Going back to Ralf's original list:

the best collection in quantity and quality

the most knowledge

the most influence

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:59 pm

Agreed, he is, well, kind of like herpes. Never quite goes away.............

Excuse me?

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:15 pm

Well for Judges Guild there is only a few of us :wink:

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:15 pm

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:
Excuse me?

No...there is not.

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:21 pm

An excuse. Nice, Kosh.
I still have a decent chunk of the JG printings. At one point or another I've owned a fair share of the non-TSR stuff. Much more interesting, in my opinion. I am much more of a "have owned it" collector than "own it and will never part with it" one. I treat RPG items like women. Once I've had them, I always have the memory. No need to have the original. Might as well pass it on so someone else can enjoy it.

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:33 pm

No...there is not.

I'm sorry, but saying someone is akin to herpes is about the worst thing you can say about anyone. Period.

That you haven't even met me or know the slightest thing about me, just makes the comment all the more abominable. You certainly wouldn't tell me this in person. Reverting to slander in an otherwise interesting thread on a site which is presumably founded to further the rpg collecting hobby is just pathetic, juvenile, and quite frankly, cowardly.

I'm not going to respond to anything short of an apology from this person. Outright slander on a community board is simply indefensible.

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:46 pm

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:I'm not going to respond to anything short of an apology.

Finally!!!!! No-one apologize and he will no longer respond!!!!

I repeat, no-one apologize and he will no longer respond!!!!

The troll has FINALLY left the forum :twisted:

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:50 pm

Deadlord39 wrote:I treat RPG items like women. Once I've had them, I always have the memory. No need to have the original.

You talk big now Frank but wait till your wife is in the room :lol:

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:58 pm

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:I'm not going to respond to anything short of an apology. Outright slander on a community board is simply indefensible.

Well, its not slander for two reasons:

A) He didnt say anything, it was written on a Message Board so if it was anything its libel, not slander

B) A personal opinion of you, whther or not you like it or not can not be libelous. If the poster had said that you had herpes because you slept around with a lot of women of ill repute it might and no one should ever do business with you because of that fact, that could be considered libelous, although even then the chances of you winning a court case on it is next to nil. First you would have to prove that the statement was not true, secondly and more importantly you would have to be able to prove that the statement all by itself harmed you finacially a substantial amount, Which basing a statement such as that, that was posted only on one message board that maybe gets 1000 independent visits a day, you be would be extremely hard pressed to prove signifigant financial loss.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:05 am

Brian

I love it when you educate people on legal matters ....

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:07 am

improvstone wrote:Brian

I love it when you educate people on legal matters ....

Mike did you read my PM earlier? I am curious as to your thoughts on that subject.

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:17 am

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:I'm sorry, but saying someone is akin to herpes is about the worst thing you can say about anyone. Period.

STS, unfortunately in this case you are not going to garner alot of support from the rest of us.

While Frank's statements can be a bit strong his sentiment is spot on. You certainly don't listen while you are more than happy to shovel your ideas down everyone elses throat. Not the type of behaviour I would look for in a person who I wanted to have a conversation with.

So as Frank originally, and rightly so, suggested who are the current grandmasters. I have started the list ....

Collection:
Faro/Harami/David
ExTSR/Frank M
Invincible Overlord/ Mike

Knowledge:
Faro/Harami
ExTSR/Frank M
Deadlord/Frank F (not sure about your collection anymore?)
Invincible Overlord/ Mike

Influence:
ExTSR/Frank M - I have to put Frank in all three categories - He is the grandmaster's grandmaster

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:18 am

Well, its not slander for two reasons:

A) He didnt say anything, it was written on a Message Board so if it was anything its libel, not slander

Thank you but I was using the term in its colloquial sense, not its legal sense.

B) A personal opinion of you, whther or not you like it or not can not be libelous.

In any event, this is patently false. Derogatory e-mails can be grounds for defamation.. opinions as a defense is hardly certain.. not in the US anyways.

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:18 am

bclarkie wrote:
Mike did you read my PM earlier? I am curious as to your thoughts on that subject.

Hey Brian, I will send you an email when I get home tonight ... Suffice to say I heard from the other parties perspective as well.

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:21 am

improvstone wrote:
Hey Brian, I will send you an email when I get home tonight ... Suffice to say I heard from the other parties perspective as well.

I hope that you didn't do that because of my PM, that was certainly not my intent.

And getting back to the subject at hand, I think that I/O needs to be on that list somehwere. :wink:

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