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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:23 am 
 

After all this talk about movies I havent seen in years I decided to watch the director's cut of Legend this past weekend.  I didnt like Jerry Goldsmith's score nearly as much as I liked the Tangerine Dream music.  It just didnt fit the movie. Ridley Scott added a bit more scenes and changed the ending a bit as well.  I definitely prefer the original version.

I also watched Ralph Bakshi's Wizards yesterday after I got home from work.  Even though I still enjoy the film it definitely needs an update.  I didnt remember the score being quite as bad as it was.  Parts of the musical score reminded me of the freeform Jazz Odyssey near the end of Spinal Tap.  Just plain awful.  :?

I also fondly remember the Rankin-Bass versions of The Hobbit and Return of the King.  I could have done without the songs though.   :wink:

And speaking of Miyazaki, I dont watch very much anime...but Warriors of the Wind is one of the best movies (animated or otherwise) I have ever seen.  The Disney rerelease Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is essentially the same movie with voiceovers by "famous actors" and a few added/deleted scenes.  I know that there is an original Japanese version out there but I have never seen it.  Great fantasy/post-apocalyptic flick.

  

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:40 am 
 

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I also fondly remember the Rankin-Bass versions of The Hobbit and Return of the King.  I could have done without the songs though.   :wink:
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   Well, there you go....

    One man's classic moment is another man's irritating pause in the action.

    I thought that the songs were an excellent way of telling about a journey and moving the story along.  The songs made the show, man!   :)

    Now, who can beat Roads Go Ever On, or Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees?  Or, who hasn't loved We Don't Wanna Go to War Today from Return of the King? There's also, Down Down to Goblin Town, who doesn't love that one?  

    Also, the voice acting for Gollum was really good.  And, the scene with Smaug's eyes, glaring about his lair as searchlight beams...well, that really hooked me on the genre.  It was some of Tolkien's best writing.

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:26 pm 
 

And, the scene with Smaug's eyes, glaring about his lair as searchlight beams..


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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:53 pm 
 

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Kingofpain89 wrote:I also fondly remember the Rankin-Bass versions of The Hobbit and Return of the King.  I could have done without the songs though.   :wink:
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   Well, there you go....

    One man's classic moment is another man's irritating pause in the action.

    I thought that the songs were an excellent way of telling about a journey and moving the story along.  The songs made the show, man!   :)

    Now, who can beat Roads Go Ever On, or Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees?  Or, who hasn't loved We Don't Wanna Go to War Today from Return of the King? There's also, Down Down to Goblin Town, who doesn't love that one?  

    Also, the voice acting for Gollum was really good.  And, the scene with Smaug's eyes, glaring about his lair as searchlight beams...well, that really hooked me on the genre.  It was some of Tolkien's best writing.

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It wasnt necessarily the songs themselves that I didnt like.  It was the guy singing them that I disliked.  What the hell was up with the vibrato?  Sounded like he was running a jackhammer at the same time he was singing.  :lol:   I did get tired of one of the songs in Return of the King.  I think it was titled "The Bearer of the Ring" or something like that.  It just went on and on and on.... :P

  

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:31 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:03 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:Well as we say in my production room, 'where they're a whip, there's a way...'


A line so great, I got it on a bumper sticker.  8)


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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:39 pm 
 

The Hobbit is excellent. And yes, I like the songs, too. They add color and a certain "feeling" to the movie. The Return of the King movie isn't as good, but still fun to watch.

I still read The Hobbit about once every few years. I used to read every summer...that was some time ago, though.


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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:17 pm 
 

bbarsh wrote:The Hobbit is excellent. And yes, I like the songs, too. They add color and a certain "feeling" to the movie. The Return of the King movie isn't as good, but still fun to watch.

I still read The Hobbit about once every few years. I used to read every summer...that was some time ago, though.


i still reckon that if they did the hobbit as a proper movie, it would be way better than lord of the rings.

i wish the movie companies would quite arguing about contracts and cuts etc and get it sorted.

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:54 pm 
 

The last thing I heard about The Hobbit movie was that Peter Jackson was going to make it.

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:59 pm 
 

Yeah I heard the same, which I believe he should, seeing as it would keep things consistant.

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:36 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:The last thing I heard about The Hobbit movie was that Peter Jackson was going to make it.

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there are two movie companies arguing over it. which is basically stopping new line from getting it into production. also peter jackon is committed to other productions til about 2008 i believe.... from memory anyway.

i seem to remember harry on aint it cool news discussing it some time back but i cant put the link to hand right now.

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Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:04 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:The Disney rerelease Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is essentially the same movie with voiceovers by "famous actors" and a few added/deleted scenes.  I know that there is an original Japanese version out there but I have never seen it.  Great fantasy/post-apocalyptic flick.

*nod nods* v.m. agreed. :)
I haven't seen the US version, but it's 32 minutes shorter according to the timings posted online (more than a few scenes, perhaps).

  


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Post Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:01 am 
 

Maybe today I'm erased by my allergy ... (it's spring people!! How I hate it!!) but give me your opinion.

Have you seen "training day" (with ethan Hawke and denzel washington)???
When I saw it first I noticed a similarity with LOTR ...
I know: story, setting, characters ... all different.

Nevertheless, in the end, in both stories, the hero could escape (and finally, win) only because he has been pityful, mercyful before.
Both of the heroes made an action that appears silly or wrong in the economy of the story, but in the end are those actions that make possible the final win.

Isn't it?

Sorry for my english and sorry for my drunkness ...
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Post Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:16 am 
 

Lots and lots of suggestions I'd have made here, although a ton of stuff I haven't seen.

I loved Krull. Willow too. Those were the two seminal sword and sorcery movies for me. Imo, Krull was just fantastic. It's totally the "Ok, this guy joins the group just because" style of party selection, heh.  "Oh look, a cyclops. Well, uh.. he kinda joins the group. Nobody ask why. And oh, hello mister bandit! Oh.. you're joining too.. ok, good thing you were wearing your 'I'm a PC' badge or we might have killed you!"

Brotherhood of the Wolf was a really interesting movie, with some fantastic action scenes, but there was just too many stupid things going on, imo. The French naturalist guy somehow becomes a badass fighter, and the kung-fu Iroqois sidekick was just too funny. Also one of the few movies that I thought Catherine Zeta Jones was really bad in.

The recent "King Arthur" (with Kiera Knightley in a leather bikini) was, imo, pretty good. Definately a group of D&D fighters, and it was done in a sorta-reasonable fashion.

The only thing I can think of to really add is "Record of Lodoss War", which is a 5-tape series. It's pretty obvously based heavily on D&D, and isn't too terrible.

Although, you could add the recent "Brothers Grimm" movie to the list - it's a little bit too futuristic for the times with the technology, but essentially a fantasy movie.

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Post Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:28 am 
 

GraysonAC wrote:Although, you could add the recent "Brothers Grimm" movie to the list - it's a little bit too futuristic for the times with the technology, but essentially a fantasy movie.


oh yeah, forgot about 'Brothers Grimm'.
Don't recall if Van Helsing was mentioned earlier, but it is another one sort of similiar.

One which was on SciFi that I only seen the first part of (was a two part movie) was I think called 'Dragon King'. Interesting story elements such as drinking dragon's blood to heal, or the odd bathing in the blood to gain impenitrable skin..best of all is it had some cool blacksmithing elements (I'm a sucker for things liek this and documentarys on such).

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Post Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:22 am 
 

Dragon #283 (May 2001) — yes, yes, a 3e issue; sue me — has a great article called "Swords & Cinema" that touches upon every movie listed here and many more. It's a full eight pages long, and it's actually quite a fun read.

Just for grins, here's the top five movies from each of the two authors of the article:

Guy #1
1. Conan
2. Fantasia
3. Army of Darkness
4. The Seven Samurai
5. Princess Bride

Guy #2
1. Braveheart
2. Jason and the Argonauts
3. Chinese Ghost Story 3 *
4. The Three Musketeers
5. Princess Bride

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* I've never heard of it, either ...

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Post Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:38 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:3. Chinese Ghost Story 3 *
4. The Three Musketeers
5. Princess Bride

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* I've never heard of it, either ...


Me neither - but I do like Chinese Vampire films - which are fun, witty and a little scary all at the same time.  And loads more original than any Western horror film in have seen in years.

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Post Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:40 am 
 

i just bought a DVD yesterday which look real interesting...must try and watch it later.

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Post Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:51 am 
 

Dungeons and Dragons Eye of the Dragon God was decent.


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Post Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:28 am 
 

For those of you with kids under 10 or so...

Spongebob the Movie - epic quest, monsters, villain, princess, magic...what more could you ask for?

Spongebob: Dunces & Dragons lost in time episode. SB and Patrick battle a evil wizard with his pet dragon.


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