ExTSR wrote:I'm in a minority here, obviously.I preordered & prepaid for 5 CoSK to support Rob's new endeavor.But I've seen nothing so far. No contact, except a request for even more money. No emailed thank-you, not even a form letter. (I have investors in my two companies. This isn't how you treat investors.)And now I'm in the midst of major activity, heading to GenCon.And ToB is being co-authored; it's not pure Kuntz.The preorder for ToB should have come hard on the heels of the arrival of CoSK, not while it's still vapor. The timing sucks. The planning sucks. The treatment of investors sucks.So I'm not in on the second release at all. Not even one.As one of the earliest supporters of CoSK, I expected to get a chance for an early buy-in on ToB, prenotification perhaps. I could and would have put another hundred or two into Rob's pot. But since I'm busy and wasn't checking my email each hour of each day, I missed out on this one entirely. So now other collector/investors have bought up all the runics & numbered copies for stockpiling, and Rob's system allows for and even encourages that.Since I wasn't worth the consideration of Pied Piper, my support isn't worth my consideration either. I'm out.::shrug::IF I like CoSK, I'll probably buy one ToB. Perhaps.
ExTSR wrote:You have it backwards, sir.It's an issue that Rob (or his business manager) should contact his investor/supporters about.And it's none of my business how Rob chooses to handle his investors. I have my own businesses to worry about.
killjoy32 wrote:am actually finding it really hard to come out with some words here.i just hope that one day, i will be so good at everything that i can fill the same boots that y'all do.cut the guy some slack for gods sake, and give him a chance to iron out the kinks. nobody is perfect and everyone has a different vision on how things are done.ah feck it i cant be arsed listening to this anymore.Al
Robilar wrote:Jeez, Folks should lighten up a bit, I feel, but I blame the runic stuff of Allan Grohe, who thought it would be a good idea.
The Robilar wrote:but from now on I will at least limit the purchases to 5 and no more so at least 5-10 folks will get some.
The Robilar wrote:Otherwise I do not know what to do to satisfy everyone, as that's probably impossible.
faro wrote:(@Brian: I don't think /anyone/ can stop people "profiteering" of what others have created. Or do people donate an extra 10% of the purchase price to the original authors when they buy a woodgrain or ltd. DCC, say?).
The Robilar wrote:Everyone got the email at the same time, or within a few minutes of me announcing the drive for ToB.Rob
bclarkie wrote:Al, I am not criticizing Rob at all. In this circumstance what is done is done. The thing that bothers me is that there are people out there, who if they haven't yet are most certainly going to take advantage of the system the way it is and the folks who end up losing out are two fold. First off you have collectors who have a ton of interest. Secondly Rob in the long run will end up losing out as well because first off someone can and will be profiteering off of his products and also this same profiteering that will be occuring, will come at the expense of the people the Rob is looking to reach out to. These same people who are ending up being screwed in the process are also less likely to participate the next time around and if that is the case everyone loses.
bclarkie wrote:I think that you are comparing apples and oranges in this situation. This is a new product that has never before seen the market and the seller, in this circumstance Rob, can control exactly who gets what. In the circumstance of a woodgrain or DCC 3.5 they are now out of print. If one comes up for sale, its one copy and one copy only, and everyone has a chance to win.
bclarkie wrote:Like I said, its only a matter of time before someone like Cougarrinard(who if you look at the list for CotSK list, was a Gold Dragon sponsor) comes along and buys all of the Runic and half of the numbered leaving lots of people hanging out to dry.
bclarkie wrote: Like I said, its only a matter of time before someone like Cougarrinard(who if you look at the list for CotSK list, was a Gold Dragon sponsor) comes along and buys all of the Runic and half of the numbered leaving lots of people hanging out to dry. You and I both know that dear old Dave wasn't contributing to the project out of the goodness of his own heart, he was doing so to profit, greatly. It is only a matter of time before good ole' Coug starts listing them on EBay 1 at a time at some silly reserve price of like $200.
bclarkie wrote:I would like to say that I do not consider what Goodman Games did the same as what Rob is doing now the same. I say this because, and this is nothing against Joe Goodman or Goodman Games, but I don't consider the 2 in even the same ball park. With that though, I have said my piece.
The Robilar wrote:Brian, you are correct. I just spent a few looking through the master email list, then, went back through the saved Sponsor orders, and your name does not appear in either. I will put this under clerical error on my part in the first drive, as I culled all of the emails off of the orders as received from Paypal, unless one sent a check, and in those case I entered them manually.Forgive my oversight and to make amends I will offer you #'s 1 and #2 of my own 10 author's copies.Mistakes will happen, and all I can do is apologize for that. Sorry.Best,Rob