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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:25 am 
 

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So in other words you are saying you are only purchasing them for finacial investment and no other reason.  That goes to the root of the concerns relayed then.  Being that there only 26 of them, if limiting the amount of copies of the Runic ones to one(or perhaps two) per person should not limit the investment you are putting into it, unless the product itself is already very deep in trouble.


I am an investor. I would not dream of playing with my Runic copy. I have bought a numberred copy which I can open and read. That makes perfect sence, and I imagine everyone who has bought a Runic copy has done the same thing.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:28 am 
 

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I am an investor. I would not dream of playing with my Runic copy. I have bought a numberred copy which I can open and read. That makes perfect sence, and I imagine everyone who has bought a Runic copy has done the same thing.


i will be yes. have mentioned this to Rob already, so that when he is ready to ship mine, i will square things up with him so i can have a normal copy too as i plan to play these with my group.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:58 am 
 

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I am an investor. I would not dream of playing with my Runic copy. I have bought a numberred copy which I can open and read. That makes perfect sence, and I imagine everyone who has bought a Runic copy has done the same thing.


So that means that you only bought one copy then? And if not what makes your investment any greater or more important than mine?  I am not trying to be critical, but they playing field should be leveled alot more then, "Well you happened to be in the right place at the right time".


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:44 pm 
 

I can see that it is a right place right time system, and that is annoying if you aren't there. But who knows where we will all be the next time.

As I said, thought. If you were obligated to but a numberred copy (or more than one) for each Runic copy, then you would limit the number of Runic copies someone could buy with their investment.

Lets say you had to pass through the Gold Dragon checkout before you could buy a Runic copy, then we'd all be only buying 1 copy and the Runic copies would be spread more evenly.

That said, I think if someone wanted to buy 25 numberred copies to secure 5 runic copies, they should be allowed to do so. The fact that they'd have to go through 10 PayPal transactions and invest $500+ to get there would also level the playing feild some what.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:15 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:I can see that it is a right place right time system, and that is annoying if you aren't there. But who knows where we will all be the next time.


I agree and in that circumstance it would be fair to those next time either.  In all honesty no matter the system in place with a limited number, someone(or several people) are going to be disappointed, but if you allow a larger exposure to the special copies less people will be in the long run.  Fact of the matter is even if It would be one per person, I seriously don't think selling all of the would be an issue anyway. :)

BTW Ian, I just sent you an email with a pic that I promised you awhile ago. Let me know if its okay.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:29 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:BTW Ian, I just sent you an email with a pic that I promised you awhile ago. Let me know if its okay.

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It is much appreciated.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:53 pm 
 

And, of course, there is also the chance that the runic copy collectors will be left with items that turn out to be of little value.

I am not in a runic copy market anyway.  I am considering whether I should stay a loyal subcriber or buy that last thing my Stormbringer collection is missing...for almost exactly the same price.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:27 pm 
 

What really matters for future value is going to be the quality of the product.   If this recreates 1st edition adventuring to its pure form, it will be valuable and sell other modules.  If it is crap, no one will buy the others and this will fall into obscurity.  My belief is that Rob in fact can recapture 1982, but I only bought one copy, as I am more of a gamer than collector.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:33 pm 
 

Gradek wrote:What really matters for future value is going to be the quality of the product.

That is not proven out. Many of the rare and valuable D&D products are rare and valuable because they are crap. No-one bought them at the time.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:57 pm 
 

Gradek wrote:What really matters for future value is going to be the quality of the product.   If this recreates 1st edition adventuring to its pure form, it will be valuable and sell other modules.  If it is crap, no one will buy the others and this will fall into obscurity.  My belief is that Rob in fact can recapture 1982, but I only bought one copy, as I am more of a gamer than collector.


well i tell you something - there is NO WAY this product is going to be crap. i have been speaking to Rob directly all the way through this product and i tell you now, it is the best thing i have seen for many moons.

there is no doubt in my mind that this is going to be well liked. if you dont like it, you need your head seeing to, believe me!

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:58 pm 
 

Gradek wrote:What really matters for future value is going to be the quality of the product.   If this recreates 1st edition adventuring to its pure form, it will be valuable and sell other modules.  If it is crap, no one will buy the others and this will fall into obscurity.  My belief is that Rob in fact can recapture 1982, but I only bought one copy, as I am more of a gamer than collector.


Oh man.  I consider 1982 to be "late."

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:00 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:That is not proven out. Many of the rare and valuable D&D products are rare and valuable because they are crap. No-one bought them at the time.


absolutely correct. some of the biggest rares are a little pile of sh*te.

i have runic copies and for me, i couldnt care less if they have future value or not. i bought them because i support the effort.

to me, they will have more meaning than just potential value.

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:22 pm 
 

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absolutely correct. some of the biggest rares are a little pile of sh*te.

i have runic copies and for me, i couldnt care less if they have future value or not. i bought them because i support the effort.

to me, they will have more meaning than just potential value.

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That's just 'cos you earn so much doing our regular job. :D


you have seriously gotta be kidding :)

i dont have many luxuries in life. i split them between doing the MDS and getting books :)

i wish i had even half of the spending power you lot have on here thats for sure!

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:11 pm 
 

Quality gaming material ... valuable ..don't think so.



ST1 is a classic .. one of our group plays regularly in Banbridge (check that out on a search engine). I mentioned to him the price ST1 was fetching on ebay. He choked, spat out his beer (very wasteful, tut tut) and described how his DM had dug up his old copy to play last year. The players thought it was such a piece of vacuous crap that they ceremonially trashed it half way through the session.



Is it valuable .. you bet

Is it excellent gaming material .....



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Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:36 pm 
 

I guess my thinking was that you could order as many of the numbered copies as you wanted but you would only receive one runic per up to four numbered. So, if a person signed up for Full - Green Dragon (2-5 copies) they would get one runic and 1-4 numbered. Another order could be place but no second runic copy could be acquired until 4 numbered ones were purchased.

Make sense?  I don't think that is too complicated.  They should still sell quickly. I think it would make the collector's happy by spreading them out a little more instead of a few "quick-draws" snagging them all up. Does a collector really need to have more than a couple?  Otherwise it's purely to resell, which I don't think was the intent.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:11 am 
 

My main thought was that Rob could make even more money by offering slightly more runic copies.   :?

I wonder how many "runic" copies there would have to be before the value went down....?  Anyone?

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:54 am 
 

Depends on what you mean by value.  What is their value now?

I have 2 runic copies of Tower of Blood pre-ordered, anyone want to swap one for a runic copy of Cairn of the Skeleton King?

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