argyrebasin wrote:
"Are you really trying to take credit for the fact that we told you it was likely worth $100-$125 when it in fact sold for that much despite your repeated attempts to sell it for more than that? Really?"

BC:
Trying to take credit? No, I'm not doing this for credit. I was pointing out that the price mentioned was around $100 and it sold for quite a bit higher although not as high as I had thought. $140 was the closing price. So yeah, it did sell higher.

argyrebasin wrote:Hi Folks,

Trying to determine value for an original Jade Hare "give-away" module from 1992. There haven't been any auctions on Ebay in months and I can't find *ANY* for sale via a search on google. I'm beginning to think $170 for a MINT Jade is waaaaay under-valued. Thoughts?

-Arg

Mars wrote:I think you are missing the point of this thread.

Blackmoor wrote:Here is a silly price


** expired/removed eBay auction **


Silly low, congrats David

Aneoth wrote:Membership to this forum does NOT include immunity from being called to the carpet for E-Bay insanity.

Blackmoor wrote:Here is a silly price


** expired/removed eBay auction **


Silly low, congrats David

Could get a real good 1st print DMG for that

Xaxaxe wrote:Common courtesy.

deimos3428 wrote:Well, I stayed away from the forum to cool down a bit.  Ah well.  I was about to apologize profusely and give you the benefit of the doubt, but you've gone and blown that idea out of the water.  

The thought occured to me that you might have misread the valuation chart and used the 2nd Alpha numbers as a reference by mistake.  It's clear you've had access to the valuations, as you have to click through that page to get to the item descriptions.  The 2nd Alpha is rare -- very rare -- and it's price reflects that fact.  

However, you've made it subsequently clear that nothing I've quoted above is true.  You did defend yourself again, for one.  And it's not personal -- at least four other Acaeum members, highly knowledgeable ones at that, have told you precisely the same thing -- your BIN price is very high.  You should listen, they're really smart guys.

Anyway, it's really not your "newbie fishing" that offends, as a lot of people do that.  My remark regarding predatory auctions was a general one, and it is irksome to see it becoming a trend over time.  What truly offends is your gall at attempting to pass off $399-499 as a completely reasonable figure.  It is not.

I don't usually provide appraisals, and this will be a rough one without the material on hand.  You might not even want the information, but unlike your BIN, the price is right.  So make what you will of it, and good luck with your auctions at any rate.

In my expert* opinion, having observed a lot of these, a mean valuation figure might top out about $100 USD, with perhaps a $20 swing either way being normal.  (The current Acaeum values are spot on that lower bound, as NM is calculated at about 90% of that value if I remember correctly.  Good work, guys.)  So check; the numbers we have listed are in line with reality.

However, consider that your copy is not NM; probably closer to VF.  It is still a very nice copy, considering how many are horribly banged up.  The creased pages do matter, even though the particular copy might have come that way off the press.  As it is not a feature common to the entire print run, it is a defect and negatively affects the grade.  I'm notorious for over-grading items relative to other Acaeum members, so perhaps this is closer to Fine.  Let's not quibble on that point.

A reasonable BIN would be somewhat higher than the mean valuation of about $60, to account for a guaranteed sale.  That's fair enough.  I'd put it at about $80-100, with anything over $120 being firmly in the "wishful thinking" category.  

So you can clearly see why we consider $399 to be humorous, now that I've provided some context.  That's four to five times higher than reasonable.

Now back to the main event!  You're distracting us from the Xaxaxe/Aneoth grudge match with all this silliness.  

* I'm not saying "expert" simply because I'm an arrogant ass.  There are maybe two dozen other people on the planet that follow this particular printing with as much enthusiasm as I do, several of whom you've been arguing with in the thread.  When you've contributed even a small part in a project like this, you tend to maintain your interest to see where it all goes.  The 1st print DMG is one of my most interesting pieces in my collection, though not the most valuable.

argyrebasin wrote:I'll have to look at it again but I'm pretty sure it's not a 2nd Alpha. I looked once and ran through the nifty DMG print chart. Kudos if you helped develop that behemoth.