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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:07 am 
 

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Sudden onset poverty sucks.  Big time.  And $5000 was more than the other offer by a nice margin.  Money I need, honor and dignity I can do without for a while.

I have to say I find the profusion of false offers to be kinda disturbing.  That first lot is now sold, so don't bother emailing me with ridiculous offers for any of it.


Don't take it personally; it's just part of the game.  Hope you work out your cash issues.  I do believe you could have made out better if you kept them up, but, I can understand not wanting to go through the hassle.

So you have more to lots to go?  If so, you could consider "auctioning" them off here under the classifieds.  That seems to work out well for some.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:22 am 
 

Well, since the James Sinks auctions went bust, perhaps you guys  may be interested in a Gygax Classic Warface in the shrink, non-TSR rarity Alchemist's Abode, a full set of Little Wars magazines, Handbook of Arcane Artifacts and more ending in less than 9 hours...  :D

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:22 am 
 

This whole fiasco sucks.


And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:34 am 
 

I imagine some people won't even bother bidding on James Stinks eBay auctions anymore. What is the point, if the things are subject to be taken down?
This can probably be filed under the Greed category. Seems to be the general trend for about a year now.
What I find a bit amusing is the off-eBay auctioning. If you take down an auction for a private offer, that is one thing, but to run a private auction after the fact is not only snakeish, it could get him banned from eBay.
The "down on my luck" sob story seems to be a recurring theme as well. Easier to just admit to wanting to cash in on the high RPG prices.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:47 am 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:James Stinks


Low blow, buddy.  Low blow.

And at no point did I deny greed was my motivator.  I need money, and you're damned right I'd try to hustle another deal (from an unsolicited offer that was designed specifically to grab my greed by the balls) with a that's hundreds of dollars more than the first offer.

If the rest of my collection appears on ebay (big if), the auctions will run to the end, come hell or high water.  As someone else said, this entire fiasco stinks to high heaven.

And I thought record collectors were bad.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:49 am 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:I imagine some people won't even bother bidding on James Stinks eBay auctions anymore. What is the point, if the things are subject to be taken down?
This can probably be filed under the Greed category. Seems to be the general trend for about a year now.
What I find a bit amusing is the off-eBay auctioning. If you take down an auction for a private offer, that is one thing, but to run a private auction after the fact is not only snakeish, it could get him banned from eBay.
The "down on my luck" sob story seems to be a recurring theme as well. Easier to just admit to wanting to cash in on the high RPG prices.


I agree, it wasn't the right thing to do.  I would have bid a bit for some of those items and was upset to see them come down too.

But, with respect to off-eBay auctioning, I certainly would not condone running one after listing the items on eBay.  I was merely stating that if he had any future lots to sell, list them here instead of eBay.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:05 pm 
 

I don't think I've ever cancelled an auction before...does Ebay refund the insertion fees?

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:11 pm 
 

zhowar wrote:I don't think I've ever cancelled an auction before...does Ebay refund the insertion fees?


Nope.
And one of the problems with a private off-eBay deal is there is no guarantee the buyer will ever pay up (of course that's also true on eBay but at least you get your listing fees back when the bidder backs out).

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:13 pm 
 

dbartman wrote:I was merely stating that if he had any future lots to sell, list them here instead of eBay.


I doubt that will happen now with all of the negative comments regarding the auctions being taken down.  :(

But if the guy is in desperate need for money then he did what was in his best interest and I won't fault anyone for doing that.  I just dislike seeing auctions being ended for a private sale after people have already bid on them.  If no one had bid on them then to me it is no big deal.

Plenty more copies of Nanorien Stones out there Al.  :wink:

  


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:23 pm 
 

Funny enough, since this has been claimed to be all about the need for immediate cash as to having taken the auctions down yet all the auctions were listed as 10 day auctions.  :?

Additionally, every single one of the posted auctions had this exact same phrase in the listing:

james.sinks wrote:I'm still looking for a handful of RPG titles (the Companions' Cards of Power, Places of Mystery 2-4, Fantasy Furnishings, and Mayfair's Demons, Demons II, Sentinels, and I believe there was a Demons novel too). I will give you credit (or buy outright) any of those titles, if you've got complete copies in reasonable condition.


Kind of odd to me that someone in such dire need of cash ASAP is still open to trading or providing credit towards the items listed................


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:25 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:
Since the seller stated they are/were active here based on their posting activity, it sounds like the person's ebay id and acaeum id must be the same.  Otherwise, how would they connect the two?


I don't think that his comment about them being active on the Acaeum is related to his posting activity.  I believe that his comment was geared towards credit on the site for contributions to the material listed.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:27 pm 
 

Nice work as usual, Brian.  
I nominate bclarkie to replace purpledragon as the forum detective.   :D

  


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:32 pm 
 

jamessinks wrote:
And at no point did I deny greed was my motivator.  I need money, and you're damned right I'd try to hustle another deal (from an unsolicited offer that was designed specifically to grab my greed by the balls) with a that's hundreds of dollars more than the first offer.


I never made an offer.  I told you that I was planning on bidding that much in total.  The reason for my email to you was two-fold:

1) To Protect you the seller.  See, I don't know who you are as I was not active on frp.games back in the day so I wanted to make sure that you were aware of the true value of the items that you were selling in the case that you weren't.

 2) To help this community out because of the fact that many of the members here are not only friends of mine but also the fact that they now had lost the opportunity to get their hands on some of these items because of the private offer, which most likely is going to end up costing you money in the end.

As you should note, my note to you about $5,000 is a number that I pulled off the top of my head without doing all the math as to what each item I thought would go for, but if you'll notice at least 2 other people here belive that the net of your auctions may very well have gone over $3000 at least and one other person stated that $5000 may have been a possibility.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:43 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Funny enough, since this has been claimed to be all about the need for imediate cash as tpo having taken the auctions down yet all the auctions were listed as 10 day auctions.  :?


I've sold on ebay before, and 10 day auctions will net more than 7 day auctions.  It's that greed again.  Me scrabbling for cash, you know.

And I don't see anything odd asking for a couple items in trade or buying them with the proceeds of the auction.  After all, the rest of the money from my collection (everything except a handful of TSR supplements I used, the Companions, and the Demons series is being sold) is going straight down the crapper and I wanted there to be at least a small silver lining to this cloud.

You disapprove of me taking down my auctions to sell things privately, fine, no problem.  You lie about your own intentions to bid on my auctions, making a thinly veiled offer that you knew I would jump at, that's not fine, and that is a problem.

And what's even worse is that you're treating this whole thing like it's some kinda "gotcha!" game.  I don't think this is fun at all.

And to top it all off, you weren't the only one.  The guy who flat out offered $500 for Roan Hart, and then admitted publicly, in this very thread, that he had no intention of buying at that price is just a dick.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:53 pm 
 

jamessinks wrote:
You disapprove of me taking down my auctions to sell things privately, fine, no problem.  You lie about your own intentions to bid on my auctions, making a thinly veiled offer that you knew I would jump at, that's not fine, and that is a problem..


I didn't lie, period.  If those auctions stayed up, there is no doubt about it that I would have bid.  Maybe not to the tune of $5,000, but certainly a lot.

jamessinks wrote:And what's even worse is that you're treating this whole thing like it's some kinda "gotcha!" game.  I don't think this is fun at all..


Your right, this isn't a game.  I have seen many a seller get porked by what was a seemingly an overwhelming private offer which actually did not end up being the case and lost out on a lot of cash because of it.  You most likely have now also fallen into this trap.  Since it doesn't seem that you have been very active in the collecting aspect of this recently let me give you a little hint, Non-TSR items are going throught the roof right now value wise.   This is the case in part because of the fact that two folks in particular have been going toe to toe on a lot of these Non-TSR items driving the prices sky high.  One of these two bidders is the one that you have agreed to sell privately to, I guarentee it.  I seriously doubt that he/she really cares about your cash flow problems at the time and made the private offer to save themselves a lot of money by doing it and not out of the goodness of thier own heart....


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:15 pm 
 

jamessinks wrote:I don't think this is fun at all.


bclarkie wrote:Your right, this isn't a game.

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Taken together, these two statements are pretty much why I'm logging into The Acaeum about once every 20 days now. Well, that and the whole "eBay sucks ... oh, wait, I have to go now and post 75 things on eBay" attitude.

Say what you want about the seller here — and it does sound like there's some legitimate concerns in that regard — but be sure to look into the mirror before you do. There is so much "my precious" bullshit here lately (both overt and reading between the lines) from I-gotta-have-it buyers that the entire Acaeum experience is hardly worth the effort any longer. Shouldn't talking about a 30-year-old game with funny dice and scary monsters be ... I don't know ... more fun?

I realize that this is a collecting-oriented site and that money does change hands; I'm not completely naive. But, all due respect and all that: a lot of folks here have some problems with perspective.

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(And, for the record, my intent is not to single anyone out; the two posts I quoted above are just being used as a convenient jumping-off point. And, yes, I'm bending them slightly out of context, but not too horribly, I think)

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:43 pm 
 

I am indeed a dick. Most people here would agree. Heck, my middle name is Richard!
But I have never stiffed anyone, I don't end bidded auctions early, and I have been known to sell items WAY below value to collectors. I've GIVEN away more stuff than I can recall. And a large number of the good folk here are the same. Could I use an extra $100? Of course. Would I resort to devious methods to get it? No. My rep as a collector is more important to me, and I prefer to see my rarer items go to someone who will enjoy them. If I get a bit less because of it, I really don't give a rat's ass. I still sleep well at night, ethics intact.
Had you done a tad of research, you would have found that most collectors here can sympathize with a cash need, and would have paid some pretty high prices. In fact, I'm sure there are a few who will STILL buy your stuff. In the long run, however, you porked yourself a bit by trying to pass yourself off as cash strapped, but willing to "trade" items. For all we know, you spent the last week at Kinko's copying rare items and intending to offer them up. Certainly a viable possibility considering the weirdness of accepting partial trades. And the crap about not knowing the value of your items is just that, crap.
Bclarkie is the king of "gotcha", he has more attention to detail and deductive reasoning than anyone here. So at least you can say you were nailed by the best.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:47 pm 
 

Forgot to add, you might have been offended by the "James Stinks" appellation. If so......... too bad. I do it to everyone, myself included.


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