zhowar wrote:There's a lot of public trademark information available at www.uspto.gov.FIRST USE: 19740115. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19740115
CGOULD42 wrote:Can anyone confirm on which printings of the OD&D supplements that the trademark symbol ® starts to appear next to the Dungeons & Dragons name? Knowing might help to identify the printing from a cover scan.
grodog wrote:15 January 1974 looks like an interesting date, to me: it's not just 1 January 1974, so I wonder if that date is actually relevant to the availability of the 1st printing woodgrain sets (vs. the prepubs, which would logically not have been generally available then??).
CGOULD42 wrote:I wonder if the June 6, 1978 Registration date was the point when TSR started adding the registration mark.
faro wrote:*Am guessing the former, as appears to be the case on the 1st Greyhawk copyright docs. For those, the stated publication date is 15th January 1975 (yeah, exactly one year later! ), but the application is retrospective (copyright document actually dated Jan 28 1977).
bombadil wrote:David, I don't remember the details of the auction description. Were those copyright docs specifically for the 1st printing of the Greyhawk supplement?
faro wrote:bombadil wrote:David, I don't remember the details of the auction description. Were those copyright docs specifically for the 1st printing of the Greyhawk supplement?Yes.I did mean "publication date", per the copyright registration form.Sensible question, Stephen, given the previous question is re. trademark as opposed to copyright
bombadil wrote:Thanks. Just checking.
Traveller wrote:This isn't a confirmation of any sort, but Holmes D&D might be an assist here. In the second print, there is an asterisk and a mention of the trademark being applied for. The third print has the registered trademark symbol.It stands to reason that any supplement printed prior to 1979 will not have a trademark symbol.
chromaticknight wrote:Lets see what I can findGreyhawk 9th print Blackmoor 5th printEldritch Wizardry 5th printGods, Demi-gods & Heroes 4th printSwords & Spells 3rd printHope that helpsMike
CGOULD42 wrote:This kills my theory that the point of addition of the symbol is 1978-June but it is probably close. Perhaps around the beginning of 1978.