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johnhuck
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Location: Leicester, UK
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:11 pm
Did he have the opportunity to cancel the auctions before you used BIN?
If he had been told that it was copyright infringement and still let the auctions run then by all means pan him.
Otherwise, maybe the benefit of your doubt. Unless he hits your shill account with negatives.
Deadlord
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Location: Cow Hampshire, US
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:26 pm
It takes me all of 10 minutes to create an account, if I take a coffee break. So no worries.
I got the e-mails about the cancellations, and then he put up ANOTHER auction for the same thing.
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
johnhuck
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Location: Leicester, UK
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:53 pm
Seller elal1963 is selling colour photocopies of
R1
,
R3
,
RPGA3
,
RPGA4
and Dungeon Crawl.
elal1963 | eBay
Reported to WotC.
OK, he's only selling for 99p so can't be making much of a profit. But what else does he offer the buyers?!?
Somebody kindly take out the auctions.
Deadlord
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Location: Cow Hampshire, US
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:47 pm
I'll do it tomorrow. They're asking about my shill account, so it's time for a new one.
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
johnhuck
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Location: Leicester, UK
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:17 am
Thanks.
They have listed some othe copied items.
So, I've also reported them to eBay this morning.
johnhuck
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Location: Leicester, UK
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:40 am
elal1963 is taking the piss now.
The seller has recently posted about 30 colour photocopies of various modules.
These ones aren't BIN. They were probably just to test the water.
GamesGuy
Prolific Collector
Posts: 352
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
Last Visit: Jan 08, 2023
Location: CA
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:41 am
I know some folks at Ebay (HQ is down the street from my house). I doubt there's anything I can do but I'll see if there's a way to screw these guys over more than we are.
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johnhuck
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:09 am
I got a reply back from
[email protected]
who said that he would speak to eBay.
But these auctions are only for 3 days. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they have all been won before eBay pull their collective fingers out.
And the seller has posted even more stuff.
Ralf Toth
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Last Visit: Nov 09, 2015
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:48 am
Andrew and eBay work really quick. I bet the auctions are gone by tomorrow.
- "When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson (July 18, 1937 - Feb 20, 2005)
Deadlord
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Location: Cow Hampshire, US
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:51 am
Seems someone named PDFkilla is bidding on all the auctions...
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
Deadlord
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:37 am
Wow, PDfkilla's bids were cancelled. He was called an "antifreetrader" in the explanation. I hope he doesn't resort to drastic measures, such as sniping.......
Perhaps the seller is an Acaeum member? I can't think of any other reason why the seller would cancel the bids, unless he were following this thread.
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
muaddib5
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Last Visit: Nov 06, 2022
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:00 am
That is just a ton of copied stuff elal1963 has up for auction!! It's all still up as of right now, cause I was looking at it all.
Gen Con in Wisconsin (1968-2002)
myalbinogorilla
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Posts: 158
Joined: Oct 11, 2003
Last Visit: Apr 08, 2009
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:24 am
PDfkilla is a pretty obvious shill name. I highly doubt they're reading this thread. Of the 10 or so guys who would be reading this, I highly doubt any of them would sell pdf's.
If you snipe make sure you use a different user name as they can block you from bidding as PDfkilla!
Ralf Toth
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:29 am
Maybe someone linked the seller to this thread?
- "When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson (July 18, 1937 - Feb 20, 2005)
Deadlord
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Location: Cow Hampshire, US
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:37 am
OK, I don't want to drag up old arguments, but hopefully now everyone sees why shill accounts are useful. And this is what I used to use them for...
Fuck it, I'm bidding with my regular account. I'll trust eBay to back me up and remove the inevitable negatives. This asswipe needs to learn a lesson. Free trade. What the fuck is he, a Mexican trying to take advantage of NAFTA? I have almost all the modules he's selling for trade/sale, and I'd probably ask just a little more than the photocopies he's selling.
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
GamesGuy
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Posts: 352
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Last Visit: Jan 08, 2023
Location: CA
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:05 pm
Ebay won't remove negatives... even if they are an attack on you.
It's a genie they can't let out of the bottle.
Shill or report him. Leave your good name out of it.
(Or get ebayDeadlord to bid on them!)
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Deadlord
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Location: Cow Hampshire, US
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:27 pm
The fool had the idiocy to post BIN's on MORE items. So Pdfkilla struck a mighty blow in the name of
RPG
collectors everywhere! Vive le
RPG
!
If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.
foster1969
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Posts: 116
Joined: Nov 11, 2002
Last Visit: Jun 24, 2014
Location: Maine, USA
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:08 am
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 3177027146
Tricky... using the lingo... !
Dere Fritoad, Two badd yoo copped outt so sooon lazt nighgt. Mised som grooovy trps. Hoap th rring thinng wurcs out awrighgt. Peece, Timm PS Hear ar som outt of sihgt stash I'm laying onn yoo guyz. Must sine off as rush iss cocomcoming ohgodohgod$#%*@!
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