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i dont think it was the character generator per se, that everyone was going on about. it was the adventures and the actual handbooks, such as the monster manual.

er...

so.

going by what you are saying then. just actual data. so like, the data is exactly the same as it would be in a book?

your listing states:

This Bundle set contains the following:
Complete Adventurer
Complete Arcane
Complete Divine
Complete Warrior

Book of Exalted Deeds
Draconomicon
Dragonlance Campaign Setting

blah blah blah.

so if i was to use your "e-tool" and i say selected the draconomicon book to look at for instance. the data that then is shown, is the same as it would be if i went on ebay and bought the book itself and read the information therein?

In Short: By adding a book you add the abiltiy to create a character, monster, treasur, table from the books.   You in no way can simply access a book or the descriptions.   Code Monkey was very careful with WOTC to ensure that the person using the dataset for the most part needed the book.  

You cannot simply say I want to view the Complete Adventurer book.   Without the book loaded you can't create a character or monster that utilizes information from the book.   With it loaded you can.  

The problem with PCGEN and ETOOLS was you could only initially create the core characters from the 3.0 DMG, PHB, and MM.   If you wanted to do anything else you needed to hand edit the program.   The Licence allowed for Code Monkey to create the datasets, but these are not books they just allow for the proper structure so you can create a character electronically without having to type anything in, write on your character sheet or make a mistake in applying the effect of whatever you take to your characters ability scores, skill checks etc.

Because code monkey in its initial creation of the 3.0 datasets included all of the 3.0 material that WOTC created.   That included the small run of modules that were produced.    WOTC didn't produce Adventures for a while after the initial module run in 3.0.    

Code Monkey was also more interested in producing datasets for books and the remaining modules were never gotten to before the license was pulled.

Again, the modules contained new magic items, spells, equipment.   These items were included so if you played the module you could thus equip your character with the item / spell without having to create it yourself.  

They were only sold as parts of megasets I believe.   I purchased the converted megaset for $150.00~ that included them.  

Code Monkey could turn them around very quickly becuase some module might only contain a few new magic items, equipment, etc.

I don't recall if any new races / feats / skill appeared in those early modules, I don't think I ever looked.

Code monkey took all of this 3.0 info and converted into the 3.5 rule system.   You cannot utilize this info for 3.0 rules that was a different dataset purchase.

I give Stephen credit for dotting his i's and crossing his t's to make sure his auction is on the level.

While there is an active group looking for TSR / WOTC listings on Ebay.   I notice that their is a huge amount of pirated Avalon Hill stuff for sale.   Is WOTC / HASBRO doing nothing tto protect their IP property for these titles?  

With the sale of these things going on for at least a year when do they enter the public domain by WOTC / HASBRO not defending them.

In particular:  

Avalon Hill | The General Magazine Project These guys have been selling .pdf's of the general saying that:

Public Domain:

The Avalon Hill General magazine was published from 1964 to 1998. Any of these magazines printed before January 1, 1978 have already fallen into the public domain. The purchase of Avalon Hill in 1998 by Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro, resulted in the return of many of the copyrights to the original designers. We have determined, after repeated contact with Avalon Hill, Wizards of the Coast, and Hasbro, that the copyrights for all these magazines are now in the public domain.

Fair Use:
Due to the fact that these magazines have been out of print and unavailable to the public for so long, the 'fair use' clause of the copyright act clearly applies for all of these magazines. It is also noteworthy that Avalon Hill authorized reproduction of General magazine articles for a nominal fee, back in the days when they were still being printed. Also, since we have changed the format of these magazines to electronic PDF and have enhanced them with a text search ability, the 'fair use' clause clearly applies.

Donations:
There has been a considerable amount money and time spent on this project. Should you wish to make a monitary donation to our project please contact us. We have spent over $3500.00 acquiring the original magazines, and they take about an hour per 10 pages to scan, clean up, PDF, and OCR.

Just wondering if this has been discussed somewhere.   Copyright enforcement seems to be much tighter on the RPG side where the wargame side is ignored.

stephenf wrote:Public Domain:

The Avalon Hill General magazine was published from 1964 to 1998. Any of these magazines printed before January 1, 1978 have already fallen into the public domain. The purchase of Avalon Hill in 1998 by Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro, resulted in the return of many of the copyrights to the original designers. We have determined, after repeated contact with Avalon Hill, Wizards of the Coast, and Hasbro, that the copyrights for all these magazines are now in the public domain.

Very questionable. I'm a bit of a General collector myself, and I wouldn't touch these with an 11-foot pole.

At this point, all we've got is this guy's word that what he says is true; I've certainly never heard of this "reversion of copyright" tale. And, frankly, for sellers of digital items, their word is hardly enough.

i will never agree its a legit thing whatever gets said......it just doesnt ring right.