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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:41 pm 
 

Reply from her:

Dear oldschooldnd,
 
RPGnow.com is the only place I know where you can purchase TSR products. And this is where I purchased it in 2005.
 
 
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:32 pm 
 

Never mind, she's a hammerhead:

No. This has been re-encrypted for my own personal use, and is from my collection. It has no watermarks or security. Should be able to reassemble, modify, copy ect.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:36 pm 
 

Reported her.  Does she really think it's legal?


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:56 am 
 

Apparently she does:


You are incorrect about TSR line of copyright matrial. When Wizards of the Coast purchased TSR, the copyright patents were never renewed and all TSR products copyright patents expired.

Yahoo! - 404 Not Found
TSR, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

With the copyright patents legaly expired, there is nothing ilegal about selling, purchasing, copying or distributing TSR products

What a moron.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:17 am 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:Apparently she does:


You are incorrect about TSR line of copyright matrial. When Wizards of the Coast purchased TSR, the copyright patents were never renewed and all TSR products copyright patents expired.

Yahoo! - 404 Not Found
TSR, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

With the copyright patents legaly expired, there is nothing ilegal about selling, purchasing, copying or distributing TSR products

What a moron.


I just went to RPGNow as I wanted to see what rights were given when purchasing a PDF.  

I like the ability to de-activate a device for the DRM copies:

Can I deactivate a device?

Yes, though you must call Adobe Customer Service to do so. They can be reached at: XXX-XXX-XXXX.


The hard part is getting through to Adobe customer service at XXX-XXX-XXXX            8O  8O  8O  8O  8O  8O  8O  8O

It made no mention of selling your license.  I suspect there is a clause in there about not reselling it but couldn't find it.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:48 pm 
 

smarmy1 wrote:
the "tantamount endorsement" seems a bit harsh IMHO...


Sorry.  Not trying to sound harsh.  Just observing and opinionating...

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:38 pm 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:Apparently she does:


You are incorrect about TSR line of copyright matrial. When Wizards of the Coast purchased TSR, the copyright patents were never renewed and all TSR products copyright patents expired.

Yahoo! - 404 Not Found
TSR, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

With the copyright patents legaly expired, there is nothing ilegal about selling, purchasing, copying or distributing TSR products

What a moron.


I am no lawyer, but I think she is mistaken about the difference between not using a trademark...such as TSR...and giving up a copyright.

A copyright exists for a given number of years and can be renewed.  I believe the copyright exists for something like 70+ years.

I think she has read the line, "TSR trademarks were allowed to expire" and confused it with, "WOTC was so stupid that they allowed millions upon millions of dollars intellectual properties to go public domain."

I believe she has confused the legal concept of "failing to defend a trademark" with copyright law.

I believe there is a 99.5% chance she is totally wrong.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:41 pm 
 

Ah!

I went back to report her again and I see that the listing has been removed as an "invalid item."

People can pretty much convince themselves of anything they want to believe.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:49 am 
 

She e-mailed me that she had removed it, told me to get a life and a hobby. A hobby.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:46 pm 
 


** expired eBay auction **


i sent the seller a msg....to see if he has any sense to remove the auction....

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Post Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:21 am 
 

She did.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:11 pm 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:She did.


excellent! someone with sense then :)



  

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:24 am 
 

oleeeee:


** expired eBay auction **


...is there any british fellow who want to have some fun with this?


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:34 am 
 

That one is not necessarily illegal. If everything is 100% Open content and the seller is simply charging for the physical medium (ie, the cost of making the DVD) and shipping, I think its perfectly legitimate. ;)

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:26 pm 
 

Surly has the proper attitude.
I get a kick out of the "no violation" statement, but no list of the material.


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:33 pm 
 

Deadlord39 wrote:Surly has the proper attitude.
I get a kick out of the "no violation" statement, but no list of the material.


yes i think he doesnt have a clue what he is talking about :)



  

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:29 am 
 

Here's the response I got:

Hi, with reguard the role playing guides i was selling im affraid ebay has taken it on them selfs to remove this listing. It did not contain any copyright material and was probally reported, by someone selling similar stuff as i was selling it cheapper, which is a shame. i shall have to relist when i can get more proof of what im selling is not copyright and contact you if you are still intrested when it is relisted, thanks grinners30


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:31 am 
 

well basically all he had to do was list the stuff that was on the CD - simple as - that would be more than justified proof, yes?

by the mere fact that he hasnt, implies that he is guilty because he doesnt want to reveal the details!

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:38 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:well basically all he had to do was list the stuff that was on the CD - simple as - that would be more than justified proof, yes?

by the mere fact that he hasnt, implies that he is guilty because he doesnt want to reveal the details!

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mmmhh... dont trust a single word...

btw how can you fill an entire dvd with not copyrighted stuff? on pc i have tons and tons of this stuff and it is barely 800 mb...


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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:44 am 
 

I don't remember the auction wording, but the DVD might not have been full. He might have just used it because CD's hold 700 MB.


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