Sellers who infringed upon copyrights; reported. • Page 73 • Collecting General • The Acaeum

The Acaeum Forums • Collecting General

Sellers who infringed upon copyrights; reported.
	Page 73 of 111 • 1 2 3 ... 70, 71, 72, 73, 74 ... 109 110 111

Author

killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8241
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Mar 24, 2024
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:59 pm

IttyBitty wrote:Another one

** expired/removed eBay auction **

think i'll let someone else have a bash at that one

Are we nearly there yet?

sleepyCO
Prolific Collector

Posts: 339
Joined: Sep 09, 2006
Last Visit: May 17, 2022
Location: 8000 feet below the summit of Pikes Peak, Colorado

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:55 am

Now I am getting confused (not unusual with American laws, etc.!).

Is the law saying that, if I buy two copies of, say, a mint-condition Q1 Queen of the Demonweb Pits, then turn around and sell one on EBay, that is illegal?? Or would it be true if, instead of Q1, it was two copes of the legendary ST1 Up the Garden Path---or the R1-R4 series, or the original white copies of the original (early 1970's) books?

For that matter, would it be illegal to split up one of the 25th-Anniversary Collector's edition boxes into multiple individual sales (as has been done in several eBay auctions)?

Mars
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 6161
Joined: May 03, 2003
Last Visit: Apr 09, 2024
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:23 am

There is nothing illegal about splitting up or selling original material - the stuff that TSR actually sold. The illegal part is that some people are making photocopies or electronic copies and selling this material which is illegal.

In the case of something rare like ST1 which holds a high monetary value, I think there is a more severe criminal offence that could be applied.

NetRodent
Prolific Collector

Posts: 636
Joined: Sep 14, 2005
Last Visit: Jan 16, 2009
Location: Montreal, Canada

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:45 pm

I hadn't noticed too many pdf sellers lately, until this one...

** expired/removed eBay auction **

sleepyCO
Prolific Collector

Posts: 339
Joined: Sep 09, 2006
Last Visit: May 17, 2022
Location: 8000 feet below the summit of Pikes Peak, Colorado

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:13 pm

Heck, I wouldn't mind if I could buy the photograph--or a copy of it--and frame it! :lol:

(Of course, some Oliver Stone-type/Howard Dean-type would say that they now know how the war on terror is being run; like an D&D/AD&D 1st edition campaign!!!

)

killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8241
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Mar 24, 2024
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:36 am

** expired/removed eBay auction **

i've reported this one....clearly ebay took no notice of me

this one too....

** expired/removed eBay auction **
(though i havent got round to reporting this one - and there is a bidder!!!)

Al

Are we nearly there yet?

aia
Long-Winded Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 3527
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Apr 20, 2024
Location: Italy

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:51 am

wow! i got this:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

i was not sure, but then i wrote to the seller and he confirmed me the item on sale is a pdf version! ...and with 16 USD BIN!!!

...is there some of you, proud US guys who wants to handle this seller?

killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8241
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Mar 24, 2024
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:22 am

aia wrote:wow! i got this:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

i was not sure, but then i wrote to the seller and he confirmed me the item on sale is a pdf version! ...and with 16 USD BIN!!!

...is there some of you, proud US guys who wants to handle this seller?

not only that, its a book by monte cook, who's wife is here normally posting ebay listings in the classifieds. methinks a msg to them about it would be a good move?

Al

Are we nearly there yet?

killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8241
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Mar 24, 2024
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:27 am

aia wrote:wow! i got this:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

i was not sure, but then i wrote to the seller and he confirmed me the item on sale is a pdf version! ...and with 16 USD BIN!!!

...is there some of you, proud US guys who wants to handle this seller?

i have sent the seller a msg just warning him of copyright infringment and also that monte cook is quite active on ebay too (well i know HE isnt, but its almost the same, with it being his wife Sue.)

might be worth others bombarding him and reporting him too.

Al

Are we nearly there yet?

Deadlord
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5784
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Last Visit: Apr 10, 2024
Location: Cow Hampshire, US

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:00 am

Not much I can do anymore, eBay requires a credit card to register. So it seems, at least.

If you hit a Rowsdower, you get to keep it.

bbarsh
Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3865
Joined: Feb 21, 2004
Last Visit: Jul 20, 2023
Location: Milford, Michigan

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:12 pm

** expired/removed eBay auction **

I'll report, but anyone else want to jump in?

And I could've bought these damn modules off the 1$ rack!!!

New modules for your Old School game http://pacesettergames.com/

Everything Pacesetter at http://pacesettergames.blog.com/

IttyBitty
Prolific Collector

Posts: 414
Joined: Mar 26, 2006
Last Visit: Nov 30, 2007
Location: Chicago

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:19 am

bbarsh wrote:
** expired/removed eBay auction **

I'll report, but anyone else want to jump in?

Done!

killjoy32
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 8241
Joined: Jan 21, 2005
Last Visit: Mar 24, 2024
Location: Wallasey, Merseyside, UK

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:16 am

killjoy32 wrote:
not only that, its a book by monte cook, who's wife is here normally posting ebay listings in the classifieds. methinks a msg to them about it would be a good move?

Al

just an update on this one. the guy e-mailed me in some form of pigeon-english, apologising for not knowing it was wrong blah blah.

anyway he took the item down so that was cool.

good lad

Are we nearly there yet?

Kingofpain89
Long-Winded Collector

Posts: 4753
Joined: Oct 31, 2004
Last Visit: Feb 16, 2024
Location: Caddo Mills, TX

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:53 pm

I don't see how this one has managed to stay up as long as it has:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Scroll down past the listings and check out the picture. Was this ever published and where the heck can I get one???

Plaag
Long-Winded Collector
Subweb Admin
JG Valuation Board

Posts: 4584
Joined: Nov 08, 2002
Last Visit: Apr 20, 2024
Location: Land of 10,000 ponds

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:00 pm

Kingofpain89 wrote:I don't see how this one has managed to stay up as long as it has:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Scroll down past the listings and check out the picture. Was this ever published and where the heck can I get one???

It probably stayed up because its 2nd edition

Wasn't some complaining about where the art has gone to after 1st edition? :wink:

ShaneG.

I reject your reality and substitute my own

deimos3428
Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3066
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Last Visit: Apr 30, 2015

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:03 am

Kingofpain89 wrote:I don't see how this one has managed to stay up as long as it has:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

Scroll down past the listings and check out the picture. Was this ever published and where the heck can I get one???

I reported it, and not for the first time. eBay doesn't seem to care about PDFs.

Mars
Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 6161
Joined: May 03, 2003
Last Visit: Apr 09, 2024
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:20 am

deimos3428 wrote:I reported it, and not for the first time. eBay doesn't seem to care about PDFs.

I'm not sure if that is the case or if it is more because this auction is being sold as a digital item. Digital items are not covered by paypal or ebay protection so they seemingly have no liability if anything goes wrong with the transaction.

By digital item I mean one that will not physically go in the mail. All the seller does is either email it to the buyer or sends the buyer a link where they can download it.

Which brings up the question, is it illegal to sell a list of links on where to download the items. All you are doing is selling the results of your google skills. Whether the buyer decides to download them is another matter.

deimos3428
Long-Winded Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 3066
Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Last Visit: Apr 30, 2015

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:48 pm

Mars wrote:Which brings up the question, is it illegal to sell a list of links on where to download the items. All you are doing is selling the results of your google skills. Whether the buyer decides to download them is another matter.

Not sure, but I'd say yes. Under ordinary circumstances, it is not illegal to link to another site.

However, assisting someone in performing a crime is itself a crime. Distributing these PDFs is illegal. Assisting in their distribution by making their location widely known (ie. advertising) might qualify.

I'm sure if the linked files were child porn, instead of something mundane like PDF files, the authorities would be very interested in speaking to the linker, not just the linkee. :wink:

The Acaeum Forums • Collecting General

Page 73 of 111 • 1 2 3 ... 70, 71, 72, 73, 74 ... 109 110 111