Some questions about auctions in general
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 pm 
 

Jesus man, did I say I had a "buddy"? I just said I don't care one way or the other. Are you sure YOU haven't taken it up the can recently? You seem edgy.......


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:34 pm 
 

I must say, this is one of the more distressing turns to a subject that I have seen in this forum. How can anyone justify or attempt to legitimize the act of shill bidding (which is, like it or not, a criminal act and constitutes fraud; look it up, it is against the law and is defined as fraud).



How can anyone say "hey, it is easy to spot so if you get taken in by it, oh well" which is basically what Deadlord is saying. If an elderly person is scammed by some telemarketter out of his/her saving, oh well, they should have known better. Is it ok to take advantage of the inexperienced or somewhat gullible? That is a very jaded view and truly says something about someones character.



The problem is not that you have a friend bidding on the item, but that your friend will not pay a dime if he wins; and the item will just go through another round of auctions until it sells to some sucker that you have milked for everything you can.



Deadlord, I am going to direct something at you strictly as an individual. You come in here and post threads and whine about someone legitimately winning auctions (please see: "Never Ends...") and then place posts either gloating about how you got an item on the cheap by circumventing the rules or not caring, and maybe even encouraging, people to preform fraud on others. I'll tell you what, you live right up in New Hampshire and I live in Massachusetts, why dont we meet and we can discuss this face to face. It would really bring me quite a bit of pleasure.



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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:49 am 
 

This is the last time I will say it:

I DON"T CARE!

NOT AT ALL!

NOT ONE BIT!



That doesn't mean I condone it. I just don't frigging care. I never said "It is easy to spot, so, oh well", I just said it is easy to spot. I also did not "gloat" about the 3rd boxed set, I just posted that I was the one who got it, and NOT by circumventing the rules. I already explained that I asked the guy if he had a Buy it Now price, and he named it.

And PD, I hope for your sake that is not a threat.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:36 am 
 

Now answer me this: Suppose you ask a friend to bid $X on your auction. Is it shill bidding? ...




From Ebay site:



Shill Bidding



It's not permitted to use secondary User IDs or other eBay members to artificially raise the level of bidding and/or price of an item.



Shill bidding undermines trust in our community and is not permitted on eBay. In addition, shill bidding is considered a felony with severe consequences.



Duh.   :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:05 pm 
 

Yup, it's against eBay policy. OK, I change my vote. It is wrong to shill bid.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:25 pm 
 

Frank, why would I make a threat? Ask anyone who knows me and they will tell you I am a friendly and easy going guy.   :D

I just though it might be fun to get together and chew the fat with a fellow collector. Ya know, get together and talk about D&D and life in general...heck you can even bring ydiduwrite with you  :wink:



Of course you did not know that shill bidding was a felony, did you?



Happy thoughts, happy thoughts indeed.



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