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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:14 pm 
 

Hello,

I was wondering how many of the forumites collect foreign publications of TSR material, and what they feel the rarity or value of this kind of thing has been. I just started to delve into the foreign editions element of collecting and I think the stuff is really quite neat! I just picked up a GW Players Handbook and GW Holmes Basic set w/ B1 in absolutely perfect condition (box was a bit crumpled on one corner but otherwise the materials had not been read let alone played). I don't have a lot yet, just a GW MM1 (poor cond), a 5th print Mentzer Basic in the pocket book size, and I am waiting for some Italian sets I bought off Sotteraneo, which I am quite excited about!

I guess what I mean is non-north american publication as this forum is quite global. Anyway, how hard is it to find these items and if you have any really weird ones, let's hear about them. I am particularly interested in getting one of those elongated Dutch Basic sets, with the funky dice tray.....


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:45 pm 
 

I'm still hunting for a UK 2nd Print Basic, the one with the dark blue cover and the gothic art. The Mentzer 5th is a real gem too.

The French Mentzer box set comes up now and again and is quite cheap, and I've seen a few German scenarios that are also cheap.

The Australian modules and rule books seem to fetch really good prices on eBay (on account of the dingos no doubt), and surprisingly the two Hebrew books that have turned up in the past year went quire well too.

I don't stray into collecting that TSR stuff myself. I don't buy any of that foreign stuff either. For all I know a German 'scenario' could be a collections of bratwurst recipes with a few shopping lists thrown in.


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:03 pm 
 

"...a collections of bratwurst recipes with a few shopping lists thrown in..."

That pretty much sums up a bunch of post '86 mods anyway!! :o 8O :D
And I am super happy with that 5th Mentzer I won from you; anymore cool treasures like that on the horizon?


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:37 pm 
 

I have 2 more Mentzer 5ths, that's all. One is a little worse than the one you have. I'll keep that one for reading. The other is near mint condition. I don't know if I want to part with it, but it may go into my eBay shop at some point.

It's a damned same there isn't a nice blue Mentzer Expert book to go with it, huh? :D


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:02 pm 
 

Absolutely a shame- it's too bad those neat little ideas inevitably are killed in the shell. It would have been just too cool to have the whole colour coded library of rules as such....the rules cyclopedia just isn't for me. When I was predominantly a player and not a collector/ wistful nostalgia buff, those book sized numbers would have been perfect! Although the boxes were great for all the paperwork...


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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:41 pm 
 

RWilson wrote:Hello,

I was wondering how many of the forumites collect foreign publications of TSR material, and what they feel the rarity or value of this kind of thing has been. I just started to delve into the foreign editions element of collecting and I think the stuff is really quite neat!

Must be a Canadian thing.  I'm trying to collect a complete set of UK printings.  If I ever find time, I'm going to cross-reference the printing hints and improve the Acaeum chronology for these items on some points.

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:20 pm 
 

Has anyone translated, or reviewed, the Israeli modules?

  

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:52 pm 
 

I think I've only seen the Hebrew module go one (maybe twice). I do colect some foriegn modules all bacis D&D - German, Japanese, French

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:12 pm 
 

I could be wrong, but I think most of the interest in foreign collecting is strictly in the UK and Australian mods and books.  I'm one of the few freaks who seems to go for lots of the foreign language releases.  I've currently got in excess on 200 items including UK, Aussie, French, German, Japanese, Hebrew, Finnish, Spanish and Italian editions.  (I have a lot of it listed at http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/inindex.htm for those parties who might be interested.) For the most part, I've picked up the foreign language stuff relatively cheap, although shipping can be a big factor.  German, French and Italian items generally aren't as hard to find, presumably because there are quite a few active collectors there, as you can tell by looking around the forums.   :)   Of them all, the Hebrew and the Japanese have been the hardest to track down for me and in some cases I've been willing to pay a pretty hefty amount to get them.  (So yes, if you have some you'd like to sale, drop me a line... I have "SUCKER" written across my forehead when it comes to this particular field.)  As far as real collector value goes?  I tend to think probably not much, since there aren't too many folks interested in them, aside from the previously mentioned UK and Aussie material.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:26 am 
 

I collect the UK and Aussie items also. Havent gotten into the other foreign editions yet, though I do have a few French and German...

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:34 am 
 

I wonder why they never printed the Al-Qadim campaign setting into Israeli. 'You and your friends can run around killing Arabs...'


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:38 am 
 

Italian version started from Mentzer's sets.
Only the first four, from Basic to Master were translated and published by Editrice Giochi (they are quite similar to US versions apart from minor diferrences); Immortal set was never published in italian.
I could be wrong, but I think there's nothing particularly rare: the only exception could be the Basic set (Red one) in its original shrinkwrap.

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:06 am 
 

Radagast the Brown wrote:Italian version started from Mentzer's sets.


Quite so, as did many others. I was translated into about a dozen languages, and I remember well the degree of stress that this put on the whole project.

Most North Americans find all the other editions to be quite rare, but of them all, those of my works are probably the most common.

Despite the complacence of our UK neighbors, we Yanks do have a fascination for the British and other versions of those products released before 1983. Amongst the pastels/monochromes, for example, those with the GW logo always bring more at an American auction.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:36 pm 
 

Radagast the Brown wrote:Italian version started from Mentzer's sets.
Only the first four, from Basic to Master were translated and published by Editrice Giochi (they are quite similar to US versions apart from minor diferrences); Immortal set was never published in italian.
I could be wrong, but I think there's nothing particularly rare: the only exception could be the Basic set (Red one) in its original shrinkwrap.

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Are you sure the Master set was produced by EG? It came out a long time after the previous three (over 10 years later), and I'm not sure EG still had interest in D&D at the time.

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:04 pm 
 

guerret wrote:Are you sure the Master set was produced by EG? It came out a long time after the previous three (over 10 years later), and I'm not sure EG still had interest in D&D at the time.


My two copies are both produced by EG ...
Nevertheless, you're right: it came out a long long time after the previous three ...


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