First (1980): .... Maps (on interior covers) in black ink.
mr-monte-hall wrote:Also strange, is the S2 module whose pages are a half a centimeter taller than the cover.... A1 and A3 are similar dimensions as S3 above (a full centimeter too tall, and half a centimeter too wide), although the covers have blue and white maps
The Collector's Trove wrote:Howdy,The 1st and 2nd Print for S3 both have B&W maps. The booklets and cover - the whole module - are also taller than later printings and modules. I doubt it is a fake - just an early printing. Does it have a wizard logo or a wizard inside a box logo? If the former, you have a 1st print! Congratulations!Futures Bright,Paul
mr-monte-hall wrote:The Collector's Trove wrote:Howdy,The 1st and 2nd Print for S3 both have B&W maps. The booklets and cover - the whole module - are also taller than later printings and modules. I doubt it is a fake - just an early printing. Does it have a wizard logo or a wizard inside a box logo? If the former, you have a 1st print! Congratulations!Futures Bright,PaulA1 has a wizard logo at the bottom center of the front cover next to TSR's address. A3 (similar size) has no wizard logo or wizard in a box (although, thanks to zhowar1's links, I can see that A3 has a TSR face logo in its 1st-3rd printings, which is what this one has). S3 has a wizard logo in the bottom left corner of the cover (also next to TSR's address).It doesn't sound like there is a definite way to tell forgeries from originals.A logo only limits the forgers to copying 1st edition modules and doesn't really guarentee authenticity. Same as coloring; it is about as easy to print blue and white as it is black and white. However, just the facts that older versions existed of A1-4 and S1-4 of larger sizes, and that black and white versions existed as well, is enough for me to dismiss serious notions of forgeries for (relatively) low cost items as these. If anything, I may have been given an older S2 module with a newer S2 cover - but for my purposes, all is fine.I really appreciate everyone who took the time to reply. If anyone does happen to have more information about which versions of modules have the size difference, I'd be very interested to read it - but it would be just for my curiousity at this point. I don't think the seller intentionally tried to deceive me or anything.
Traveller wrote:Does it seem normal though for a module to be wider than normal, even if it's slightly taller? We are talking a quarter inch (roughly) wider and that I've not seen. Taller I recall, and stupid me wasn't converting centimeters to inches properly anyway, thus I am very wrong.So, I retract my earlier assessment that these are fake.
MShipley88 wrote:And I have a copy of a Judges Guild module...Book of Treasure Maps...by Paul Jaquays...that is hacked off at a bizarre angle so that the top of the module is a centimeter or so shorter than the bottom. Only Judges Guild could have shipped a downer cow like that one.
mr-monte-hall wrote:I suppose an easier scam is to just do what cougarrinard did, which was to buy all of my modules and then lie about the condition when he resold them.
killjoy32 wrote:mr-monte-hall wrote:I suppose an easier scam is to just do what cougarrinard did, which was to buy all of my modules and then lie about the condition when he resold them.not wanting it to seem like i am defending him all the time, i do agree in a fair argument. i have prb bought more from him than everyone on here combined and i can assure you that at least say 50% of the time, the item is in better condition than what he has quoted. only on one occasion has it been worse, and he refunded me for that without question.Al