bbarsh wrote:Fid,I think you need to shake that preconcieved notion that all of acaeum guys are looking to horde and hide away everything we can get our hands on. It really is a bit insulting. Most of these members are looking glean information about the roots of our hobby. We are looking to preserve what is still left. By the way, I was one of those guys who volunteered to help. I currently help edit Footprints - and I even do it for free. And yes, I am an OSR publisher. My offer still stands. The only caveat is that my donated work is actually used and not discarded. Editing by its very nature is offensive to the author. But a little bit of thick skin goes a long way.Thanks again for your posts,Bill Barsh
Fid wrote:you guys lock it up in a vault.
FormCritic wrote:Maybe to keep it safe. Consider what happened to Mr. Lakofka's classic gaming notes and papers when he moved. Those papers are in a far deeper vault than a bag in someone's den. They are gone. We are all about keeping that sort of thing from happening.You won't find much ego here in regard to size of collection. This site is more about sharing the collecting hobby than trying to top everyone else.Once in a while a collector posts pictures of his stash. The response is cheering, not envy.Even though collectors here bid against each other, there is remarkably little rancor.This site can be hard on people who come looking for trouble. But people who come looking for help generally find it right away.Sites like the Acaeum are why examples of these classic items will be around two generations from now, when interest in the Golden Age flares again.And Egg, don't give up yet. The relatively small amount of carping you have read here is really a good sign. It's not because people feel entitled. It's because they care about classic items like L4. Watch...some of the carpers will pitch in and help fix the editing.
At one point, there was essentially no one left on the DF Production Team.
It's one of the main teasons I've come to to really despise the hobby these days.
FormCritic wrote:Even though collectors here bid against each other, there is remarkably little rancor.
Fid wrote:OK, just remember that it is Grest not Crest. If you screw up, you'll be at the mercy of these boards - not to mention every armchair amateur attorney trying to defend Procter & Gamble's IP.Also, please try to be nice to the people you meet. One of the things I enjoyed about this project was making new friends. Sometimes friendships are more important than commas.
Fid wrote:And the answer is No, Len probably isn't going to sell you any of his really cool old TSR stuff. He's more the type to just give it to a bunch of kids to play with than let you guys lock it up in a vault.
mbassoc2003 wrote:I only offer suggestions and if the writer choosed to discard them, so be it.
MetamorphosisSigma wrote:I would have "choosed" to disregard them too, for fairly obvious reasons.
The Acaeum entry on L1 wrote:The working title for L1 Secret of Bone Hill was "The Restenford Mystery". According to former TSR employee Lawrence Schick, Erol Otus deliberately botched the rear-cover art on L1, because he didn't care for the module. We'll let you decide.
I'll take the fall on some of the errors since I was the one who typed it. It went from Wordperfect to Word and that alone was a *&$%# hazard. I've been reading myself and I've found a few little things. In retyping all of the stats I'm amazed at how well it came out. Always remember it's YOURS now so do the fix you feel right and go forward. I'm sure that at some point there will be L4.1 correcting the little stuff but that is up to Dragonsfoot. Do recall that no one gets paid for all of this."Sir Clarence" likely put in 40 or 50 hours on the maps to say nothing of the revisions. (I can be an pain in the ass.) I estimate that it took about one year of real time with about 300 hours in the actual MS. L5 is about double those time inputs. So be nice to the folks at Dragonstooth (sp). They did a great job.Lenard
bbarsh wrote:Mike,I can't believe I am saying this, but I will do it unless someone else has a strong desire.I would need a few people to help out. 1) Somebody needs to convert that pdf into a word document.2) Somebody to help with the maps.3) A shitload of proofreaders and possible playtesters.I will take care of the rewrite and redesign. In my opinion, it needs a complete redesign so it can be in ready to play format.I will also work on getting some illustrators on board.All that and we can turn this puppy around in short order.
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mbassoc2003 wrote:I've already been asked by Chris on the DF team to proofread the original L4 MS, so I believe they are intent on correcting and republishing.The original source is an OpenOffice file as opposed to .doc.
Badmike wrote:L4 needs more than a proofread, it needs an entire redesign. Are they going to go that far? Or only correct the spelling/grammatical errors?