If the prices cannot be updated regularly (say, every 2-3 years) why not have something along the lines of "Current sales" section in the Stickys that would track sales on at the very least the Rares during the last, say, six months or so. Since the Rare items come up for auction/sale most infrequently of any of the sections, this would seem to be the easiest to update in this way. Plus I think this is the area of the most interest for most of us posting on these pages. At this point, other than Ebay, Gencon and documented private sales, is there even any other venue of sales that needs to be covered in these prices? It should be easy enough to track, say, all the Rahasia or RPGA1's sold within a six month period. No need for averaging of prices, just a listing of what the items currently sold for on Ebay or other documented venues. Perhaps a Sticky in the General Section named something like "Current Rare Prices" that could be edited/updated every month or so. I for one would love one dedicated format to seeing the selling prices of Rares accurately recorded for my own reference and for research purposes. Mike B.
FoulFoot wrote:There is no "Estimated Values" page. I don't have any clear idea what you're talking about.There used to be an "Estimated Values" section on each individual item page, but I renamed that over a year ago to "Auction History and Commentary". If that's the section you're talking about, it does not serve to be an estimate of values. It's simply an area that I record auction sales from time to time, primarily for rare items. While I have more sales recorded there on my master server copy, the current published site hasn't been updated since last summer. While I've been slacking off recently, it does have a pretty accurate record of most class "5", and many class "4", sales in the last five years.Foul
FoulFoot wrote:Recording sales is an enormous pain in the ass, which is why we have a dozen members on the Valuation Board who have split up the workload. It used to be just me, and yep, I missed some. I'm even less diligent now in recording sales for the Auction History section, mainly because I don't have the time, and also because the section is not particularly relevant (i.e., it has no bearing on estimated values). Even if someone with lots of free time were to send me hundreds of sale prices each month for inclusion there, I wouldn't have the time to enter all the values onto the page. It's mainly there for legacy issues.Foul
bclarkie wrote:...but I would feel safe in saying that we have tracked 100% of all 4 & 5 rarities and probably 95% of all 3 rarities.
harami2000 wrote:*adds proviso* (?)bclarkie wrote:...but I would feel safe in saying that we have tracked 100% of all 4 & 5 rarities and probably 95% of all 3 rarities.... that have been sold as individual items, no?For example, an OCE that also has a copy of Greyhawk bundled in the same auction is not tracked (IIRC).
Badmike wrote:the gossip mongering whores of the RPG world
I'm suggesting one central site for listing and discussing the recent/current auction prices for Rares ONLY. Rather than make extra work for Foul or anyone else, if there were a sticky marked something like "Current Rares Auction Prices" anyone here could add to or comment on the list.
I know this kind of data is available to whoever on the Valuation Board is tracking Orange B3's, and that is fine.
bclarkie wrote:harami2000 wrote:*adds proviso* (?)bclarkie wrote:...but I would feel safe in saying that we have tracked 100% of all 4 & 5 rarities and probably 95% of all 3 rarities.... that have been sold as individual items, no?For example, an OCE that also has a copy of Greyhawk bundled in the same auction is not tracked (IIRC).Yes, thats correct. I figured that was an already understood fact.
deimos3428 wrote:I know this kind of data is available to whoever on the Valuation Board is tracking Orange B3's, and that is fine.We should be so lucky! In reality, its nowhere near as succinct as that...and its written in a secret code of twisty, shifting characters.
harami2000 wrote:Which actually means that only 50%, say, of OCEs sold are actually "fully" tracked as part of the "estimated value" for the "worth" of an OCE. Apols, just a general point/check in passing.
The same would apply for an Inverness tourney bundled together with a few other relatively mundane mods in a given auction.(Losing such a data point is perhaps more problematic).
deimos3428 wrote:Badmike wrote:the gossip mongering whores of the RPG worldYou rang? I'm suggesting one central site for listing and discussing the recent/current auction prices for Rares ONLY. Rather than make extra work for Foul or anyone else, if there were a sticky marked something like "Current Rares Auction Prices" anyone here could add to or comment on the list.Not a bad idea. You can always make the thread and let Foul worry about whether it deserves stickiness. There are enough rares sold that it should one the first couple of pages, in any event.