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Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:13 pm 
 

Tramp stuff, Otus stuff . . . . not much.



I know that Tramp still owns all of the original art he did for the WORMY strip, but nothing else. I know of a number of inks in collections, plus one or two color pieces - but no full paintings.



Pretty much the same with Erol - a number of inks around, but no paintings (except the Deities & Demigods cover, of course).


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:13 pm 
 

Did Erol actually sell that one away, Pat? I know where it went but didn't know if he had it originally.

Why these things interest me....I dont know.  :D


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:24 pm 
 

tsrart wrote:I know that Tramp still owns all of the original art he did for the WORMY strip, but nothing else. I know of a number of inks in collections, plus one or two color pieces - but no full paintings.




Pat, does that mean that you've been able to successfully talk with Trampier??? 8O


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:32 pm 
 

Pat has a very powerful 10th level Collector spell called Speak with 1e Artists. There is no defense and unlimited range with very few examples of successful savingthrows.  :lol:


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:31 am 
 

Not sure if these will replace my previous selections but I had forgotten about these until TSR (oops sorry WotC) was so nice to post them. Who can't love the evil halfling....even if he is not what he seems.



I cant see any signature on the art for Room11 or Room4...does anyone know who did those?



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wpm_g ... Room27.jpg



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wpm_g ... Room11.jpg



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wpm_g ... _Room4.jpg


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:53 am 
 

Marlith: they look like Roslof to me but I'm not 100% sure.



I should've mentioned Willingham in my earlier list of favorite 1E artists.



Hey that art gallery is cool. I'd never seen the back cover of the mono version. It's always nice to see a "new" Otus!



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wpm_g ... Cover1.jpg



Looks like the party is the same one as in room 17 and 23 illustrations. The gallery is missing the Otus Efreet(s) from the last page.



I think I'll pick Otus' map for WPM as my top 1E visual. They should've had a map like this in every module!



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/wpm_g ... iorMap.jpg

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:32 pm 
 

Both are Roslof's, Marlith. The sigs show up in WhPlMt mod.





I agree with you Zhowar!


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:31 pm 
 

I haven't been that into the mono modules previously. I used to have G2 and  D3 but I sold them on Ebay years ago. But lately I've been more interested in the artwork differences.



Can anyone tell me who's artwork is on the back of the following mono modules?



B1 -

C1 -

D1 -

D2 -

D3 -

G1 -

G2 -

G3 -

S1 -

S2 - Otus - adventurers approaching White Plume Mtn

T1 -



Also, which monos have different interior artwork?

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:29 am 
 

Adam Shultz wrote:Both are Roslof's, Marlith. The sigs show up in WhPlMt mod.





I agree with you Zhowar!




See if I had pulled my copy out I would have known that or been able to figure it out. Just surprised they did not include in the image as they did on most of the others. Thank you for the information!


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:01 am 
 

zhowar1 wrote:Can anyone tell me who's artwork is on the back of the following mono modules?




Well, here's what I've come up with so far:



B1 - Sutherland

C1 - whoever signs with :| in a little square...Erol Otus?

D1 - Sutherland

D2 - Sutherland

D3 - Trampier

G1 - Trampier ?

G2 - Trampier ?

G3 - Trampier

S1 - Sutherland

S2 - Otus - adventurers approaching White Plume Mtn

T1 - DAT = Trampier?



Interesting signature on front cover of B1, too: "DIS & DAT".

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:59 am 
 

Thanks, deimos.



If that little square is a fused EO, then it's Otus.



Many of the pictures here have the EO sig:



http://jrients.tripod.com/otus/otusbasic.htm



That EO was what made Otus the first artist I became of aware of on a name basis back in the 80s. We noticed the EO on the painting of the Keep on the back of B2 and at first thought it was part of the Keep (perhaps a prison cell?). Then we realized the artist's name was Erol Otus and EO was his signature. And then we started looking at all of the other artwork in other modules for the 'EO'.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:03 am 
 

DAT is David A. Trampier.



I noticed that DIS and DAT before. I just googled +Trampier +"dis and dat" and found this:



"I certainly remember him fondly. Sutherland and Trampier (DCS and DAT, or as we used to call them, "dis and dat") were the primier artists at the beginning of it all. First Trampier disappears mysteriously and now this."



http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthr ... nextnewest

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:59 am 
 

My favorite A/D&D art by far is Erol Otus's Cthulhu Mythos stuff in DDG. My favorite is Shub-Niggurath:



http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/kengag ... itt14.html



A close second is Yog-Sothoth:



http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/kengag ... itt15.html



My third favorite is the shoggoth:



http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/kengag ... itt13.html

  


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:00 pm 
 

zhowar1 wrote:Thanks, deimos.



If that little square is a fused EO, then it's Otus.





Yep, that's it.  The symbols I used got interpreted as a smiley, though. :)

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:36 pm 
 

grodog wrote: Pat, does that mean that you've been able to successfully talk with Trampier??? 8O




No, unfortunately not. But Tony DiTerlizzi DID manage to get in touch with Tramp through various and esoteric means, and relayed the information.



Sadly, it appears that Tramp's taxi cab also serves as a Protection from Speak With 1e Artists spell. :D


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:43 pm 
 

Killjoy's #2 above (the Revenant) sent me back to the Fiend Folio to look up the artist. Russ Nicholson. Looking through the Fiend Folio, I really like his work. Alan Hunter, too. It's funny but the small number of Otus, Willingham, Roslof and Dee pictures in the FF look somewhat out of place next to the Nicholson and Hunter pics.



I searched the Acaeum Forums and there's never been a post that mentioned "Russ Nicholson" before! (although I believe we lost the Forums at some point). I did find an interesting and funny thread over at Dragonsfoot:



http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... +nicholson

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:05 pm 
 

I added some info to deimos post:



Back covers:

Mono version --> Color version

B1 - Sutherland --> (didn't find this one yet)

C1 - Otus --> ? [Wizard confronting invisble coatl on pyramid]

D1 - Sutherland

D2 - Sutherland --> (D1,2) Willingham [Mind Flayer/"Scarlet Witch" casting Color Spray]

D3 - Trampier --> Jeff Dee [Silussa Succubus & Belgos Vampire Drow]

G1 - Trampier ?

G2 - Trampier ?

G3 - Trampier --> (G1-3) mini pics of G1, G2, and G3

S1 - Sutherland --> Otus [Party with Wizard about to put his head in Sphere of Annihilation]

S2 - Otus [adventurers approaching White Plume Mtn] --> Willingham ["Elric" with Blackrazor sword]

T1 - Trampier --> Jeff Dee [Two guys - same as 1984 PC Record Sheets cover]



Here's some trivia questions:

Do any of the tournament mods have back cover art?

What was the last TSR mod to feature back cover art?

What was the last TSR mod to have a product listing on the back cover?



UK1 has both (back cover art/product list); UK2 has neither; both are 1983, so it's sometime around then. Around then is when they re-designed the presentation to include the orange bar across the top (and put the same color on the hardback spine).

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