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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:30 am 
 

I love that cover of Dragon.  I believe that its original title was, The Real Reason the Romans Abandoned Britain.  It is the demon lord, Koschei, smashing Roman-like soldiers.

  I think the best illustrations are the ones that inspire ideas for great adventures.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:36 am 
 

Hehe, right. It's Kostchtchie btw. Demon Lord of the Ice Wastes/Demon Prince of Frost Giants.

I found that out years after I put the picture (it's also a binder in some MC) on the back of my character folder.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:33 pm 
 

I might answer the question differently in a few weeks, but at this exact moment in time, here's my top three:

#3: If you don't recognize this map, you're reading the wrong forums.

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#2: Erol Otus' only Dragon cover.

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#1: My original copy of T1 literally began to fall apart from over-use.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:10 pm 
 

Great choices, Xaxaxe.

I love the classic blue maps. Number 1 is from In Search of Unknown, no? I was always more of a Keep on the Borderlands fan, but I happened to look at ISOU the other day after reading a post about by Badmike.

I'm not sure I could pick my top three pieces without a lot of consideration.

My favorite artists are Otus, Trampier, Roslof, and Sutherland.

Check out the Erol Otus "shrine":

http://jrients.tripod.com/otus/otus.html

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:33 pm 
 

zhowar1 wrote:Number 1 is from In Search of Unknown, no?


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:58 pm 
 

I love this cover, I can't believe the unicorn looks badass.  =)
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Everyone has a favorite Dragonlance cover, I always liked Triumph
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And this one was a Dungeon Mag from the late 80's, it might have been on the cusp of 2nd ed, but who's counting.  =)
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And as for 2nd ed, I'm a big fan of Easley as well as Mind Flayers...
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:31 am 
 

The most iconic images of AD&D to me are the covers to the original PHB, T1-4 and GDQ1-7.....all of them tell a story.
   The cover to B1 In Search of the Unknown always puts a smile on my face (MONO version only).  It was the first adventure I ever went on, the first adventure I ever DM'ed, and just looking at it gets my juices flowing for throwing dice, killing orcs and mapping out a corridor and a door at the end of it while saying "Ok, what do you guys do at the door? Listen?  or break it down?".  Classic.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:30 am 
 

frankfromgermany wrote:Hehe, right. It's Kostchtchie btw. Demon Lord of the Ice Wastes/Demon Prince of Frost Giants.

I found that out years after I put the picture (it's also a binder in some MC) on the back of my character folder.


   The name is picked up from Russian folklore and slightly mis-spelled in the TSR mythos.  Koschei the Undying, rendered here as a demon lord.

    Anyway.  Nerd stuff.   :?


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:28 am 
 

Hi Adam -

Fantastic thread. Only three? You make it hard to choose.

3rd for me is a tie between the Otus basic boxed set, and the back cover of B2, showing the Keep at sunset.

2nd is the Players Handbook cover of the Idol.

1st is by Dave Trampier, and is one particular Wormy strip. From issue 96, Frank and Bender have killed a mud sucker and are floating on it down an underground river. For a  couple of pages Tramp shows images of the caverns, which gradually increase in activity - first a few mushrooms, then fireflies are added, then a few trolls on the riverbanks. You turn the page, and its as if you' ve rounded the last bend in the river:

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The underground city, in all its glory. Undoubtedly for me the most fantastic piece of art ever done in D&D or Dragon magazine (my crappy photo doesn't do it justice).

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:59 am 
 

Okay, finally got a chance to narrow it down:

#3 is "A Paladin in Hell".

#2 is this image which was used as the cover of Dragon #127.  I remember that the picuture was "unititled" and Dragon suggested sending in a title and maybe they print it someday?  I sent in "True Orcs at Heart" . . . anyway  . . . .I have spent quite a bit of time staring at it.  I really makes me feel as if I was witnessing the end of a real battle and how it would be in a D&D world.  It seems to bring a personality to Orcs that I hadn't quite realized before as they challenge the conquering elves to one last fight.

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#1 is the cover of the Basic Set (Red Dragon). My first D&D item and I can't tell you how many hours I have logged staring at it.  I used to imagine each item in the Dragon's Horde, what it was, how many gold pieces, the levels and equipment of the fighter and magic-user,  etc.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:41 am 
 

I also spent quite a bit of time staring at that Otus basic set box cover imagining the whole battle playing out.  I think that painting more than any other defined D&D to me as as kid.  I wonder if the original survived.  
And that Wormy painting from Dragon 96 is also awesome, I had forgotten about it from all those years ago, but looking at it now brings back memories of observing its every detail.  Trampier was awesome.  
Good choice on the B2 back cover of the adventurers at sunset, it's very evocative of the essence of D&D.  
This has been a great thread to reminisce with.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:41 am 
 

I have been reluctant to post because I dont think this thread is fair :P There is no way in hell I can pick only 3. :) So above and beyond some of the ones that have already been listed, i.e A1, A4, I6, Erol Otus Basic Set, Phb, DMG, Dragon #119, I am going out on my own and I listing for you my Top 10 (and in no particular order): 8O


T1-4:

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G1-3:

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Northwatch:

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I1:

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X1:

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X2:

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S4:

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CM3:

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Dragon #106:

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And finally, becuase it was so very different from any other module, WG4:

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Sorry, for the huge post, but I just could not pick 3. :? Hell I could have probably picked 25 if I really though about it and wanted to include interior artwork. :twisted: The artwork is really what sucked me into the game back long long ago.....


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:53 pm 
 

Interesting pick on WG4, which has generally been lambasted in the past as containing sub-par artwork. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong (impossible, anyway, with how subjective art is), I'm just saying it's ... interesting. :wink:

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:18 pm 
 

#3: pg 110 monster manual- DCS

#2: Lolth and two demons fraternizing on the first page of Q1- Erol Otus

#1: Cover of Elmore Basic set

  


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:25 pm 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Interesting pick on WG4, which has generally been lambasted in the past as containing sub-par artwork. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong (impossible, anyway, with how subjective art is), I'm just saying it's ... interesting. :wink:


Truthfully from a technical perspective, the cover for WG4 is pretty subpar. The thing that I think draws me to it is the fact that it so different from anything ever produced. The pastel colors in both the artwork and the cover make it seem kind of eerily drab. It is just so odd....


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:33 pm 
 

1. Emerikol (sp) the Chaotic in PHB



2. Basic Set Erol Otus cover (wooden shield and spear = cool)



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3. Image





ahhh.... there are so many!


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:57 pm 
 

Does anyone know where the original TOEE artwork ended up?


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:56 pm 
 

Hello, all!



The noise from this post attracted my attention, so I thought I'd wander on over and add my two copper pieces to the debate...



Many of my favorites have already been mentioned (the Idol cover of the PHB, cover art of I6, DL1, so I thought I'd offer some of my faves that haven't been mentioned yet:



--from S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth: the illustration of Drelnza laid out on her bier, surrounded by Iggwilv's treasures with the Wondrous Lanthorn(?) casting a deceptively beatific glow upon everything. Wonderful stuff from Mr. Easley, I believe!



--The cover artwork of DRAGON #83 (I believe), the chess game where the black queen exterminates the white queen



--Erol Otus' outre illustrations for the Cthulhu Mythos in the original Deities and Demigods. Chaosium should've taken him on to do their artwork, IMHO!



Least favorite artwork?  Gosh, there's a lot more of that!  But I'd have to say that the cover of the S1-4 compilation was pretty uninspired.



Favorite 2nd Ed artwork? I'd say the Planescape DM's screen from the Planescape campaign setting boxed set.  Simple, yet iconic, and the only piece of cardboard that's ever given off the impression of tarnishing before my eyes...  ;)



Least favorite 2e artwork?  Well, the cover of the Dungeon Master Guide is a godawful amalgamation of the revised cover art for the 1st Ed PHB (think Ringlerun, the LJN Good Wizard) meets Lawrence Welk, IMHO...



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Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:52 pm 
 

There's WAY too much good stuff (good both as in cool and cheesy) to just pick 3.  I could only settle on "The 3 best X", where "X" is "by artist Y", "that evokes basic D&D nostalgia", "that evokes AD&D nostalgia", "lame but most loved", "most hated", etc.



I'll start out with "The 3 coolest from the Monster Manual".  They are all Trampier, of course  :D



#3

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#2

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#1

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It's interesting to note that, at least for me, coloring the artwork often ruins it.  Roslof and Jeff Dee did awesome work, but I hate almost every colored piece they've done (e.g. covers of green S1, A1, etc).  However, this does not seem to apply to Erol Otus -- his colored stuff is just as good as his line art.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:40 pm 
 

Heh, I like Roslof's covers *because* they are so bright and colorful...



Love that cover of the 1980/81 D&D Character Sheets with the Blue Dragon facing off against the party of adventurers from the "Rainbow Guild":



http://www.acaeum.com/DDIndexes/MiscPag ... 1DDPC.html



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