NetRodent wrote:Mystara was the setting of the D&D game and thus dates back to the late 70's or early 80's. It was only named Mystara in 1994 when the world was brought into AD&D.
beyondthebreach wrote:Greyhawk has to be earlier than 1980 as a first appearance? Someone else must be able to answer this.
Greyhawk has to be earlier than 1980 as a first appearance? Someone else must be able to answer this.
I would say that the Ravenloft Campaign Setting began in 1990. If you go back to I6 it may be 1983, but I don't think the setting really came about until the the Realm of Terror set in 1990.
I believe that Mystara is what the Known World became when D&D was dropped and it became AD&D instead.
One setting you missed is the Council of Wyrms. I'm not sure if its part of another more familiar setting or not.
There are also the various historical campaign settings: The Glory of Rome, Charlemagne's Paladins, The Crusades, The Vikings, The Age of Heroes, A Mighty Fortress.
Greyhawk should be considered as going back to Gygax's original home campaign setting. I can't remember that exact year he started that. But there are many references to Greyhawk prior to 1980.
Also, your list should probably include the original TSR Empire of the Petal throne box set. It's really just OD&D with a few variations.
There's the "Tomes" group from 2nd edition, unless they fit in somewhere else.
First setting was the 1980 Folio. First mention of the campaign name Greyhawk was probably in "The Gnome Cache" or perhaps in the Domesday Book (which would likely be the first publication of content that later became part of GH).[/qoute]Ah! The plot thickens! Or... The plot thickens :( :cry: [qoute]Another missing: Thunder Rift for D&D from about 1992.
*small voice from the back attempting to be useful* The mention of the Warcraft setting reminded me... Didn't TSR do a few modules in the Diablo setting, too? And also, where do you all lump Alternity (And the Starcraft setting therein) in the grand scheme of things? Is it completely separate from D&D, or do you just pretend it doesn't exist...
zhowar1 wrote:6) d20 Dave Arneson's Blackmoor - where is it now?
Oh, and I did some checking over lunch. The first I see of any reference to Threshold is in the 1983 Expert set. It's not even on the map of Karameikos in the 1981 Expert set even though Specularum, Luln, Fort Doom, Wereskalot, an unnamed Gnomish stronghold, and The Haunted Keep are.The 1983 set was really where the Karameikos as starting point for the PC's took hold. Of the adventures previously released...B1 was in GreyhawkB2 was in a generic setting (probably in Greyhawk)B3 was in a generic setting (although the recalled Orange version was set in Glantri)B4 was in YlaruamX1 positted Specularum as a starting point, but was set on the titular islandX2 was in GlantriX3 was on the Soderfjord/Ethengar border.Anyway, the point is, if B2 was set anywhere at the time of its publication, it was Greyhawk. And it certainly wasn't set in D&D's Known World until it was done so retroactively, 8 years after it was published.
Issue #13 is noted for the very first pre-Dungeons and Dragons-related article ever to appear: by Dave Arneson, no less, entitled, "Facts about Blackmoor", detailing the 'First Fantasy Campaign'.Table of Contents*****************The Storming of Minis Ithil page 3Facts About Blackmoor page 6Feudal Kingship page 8Missives (Letter Column) page 9Letter from the King page 11Precedence by Title or Office page 13Knights Jousting Tourney page 14
Feanor23x wrote:And what about Gamma World (I think that's what it was called.) It's been a long time since I've seen it, but didn't that use the D&D rules as well? If so, they might as well get included!
Feanor23x wrote:Greyhawk should be considered as going back to Gygax's original home campaign setting. I can't remember that exact year he started that. But there are many references to Greyhawk prior to 1980.Again, when was it detailed and *published* as a setting?Also, your list should probably include the original TSR Empire of the Petal throne box set. It's really just OD&D with a few variations.Wasn't aware of this. Where can I find detailed info (or any, for that matter) on it?
If Dungeons & Dragons can be said to be the first commercially published role playing game, perhaps EPT can be said to be the second, published a year after D&D. In many ways, EPT was original D&D in a different package. But what a package! While D&D is a generic pseudo-medieval European fantasy game, EPT was specifically designed to be set in the unique and detailed world of Tekumel.
Winterwords wrote:For the historical campaigns, I guess their first appearance would be Legends & Lore. (?)