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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:17 am 
 

Yeah, what's this about a new RJK auction...are you teasing us?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:18 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
oooh more RJK auctions *suddenly sits up a little straighter*

teeeeeeell me more!

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afoolandhis$ wrote:Yeah, what's this about a new RJK auction...are you teasing us?



Rob annnounced on his Pied Piper Publishing board back in late September that he is planning another auction set coming up soon. I do not know exactly when, but I imagine it will be within the next few months. I am sure Paul can confirm this for sure. :)


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:06 am 
 

Howdy All,


bclarkie wrote:Rob annnounced on his Pied Piper Publishing board back in late September that he is planning another auction set coming up soon. I do not know exactly when, but I imagine it will be within the next few months. I am sure Paul can confirm this for sure. :)


Yes. Auctions for Rob Kuntz, Steve Marsh, and a posthumous auction for Dave Sutherland's estate. Also, somwhere in the mix will be a one item auction for Len Lakofka and a vertiably huge auction for Kevin Hendryx.

Rob and Steve will have their auctions late Nov., Dave's will be run in Early Dec.

Of course, this all assumes I survive packaging up 443 items from this auction - that's 8 copier paper boxes full of stuff. I'll put the stats out when I'm done but there are an inordinate amount of Italian buyers.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:57 pm 
 

Had someone told me 6 years ago a woodgrain would sell for 4k I would have thought it impossible.

The sky seems to be the limit for this stuff. What is the next step? Enter the newly minted millinonaires during the next dramatic economic growth?


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:25 pm 
 

Couldn't sleep last night.  Kept thinking and muttering to myself.  Why didn't I bid higher. :cry:  :cry:   I wonder what Red's high bid was  :? Hmmmm


Anybody else got one of these?

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:22 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:Couldn't sleep last night. Kept thinking and muttering to myself. Why didn't I bid higher. :cry: :cry:  I wonder what Red's high bid was :? Hmmmm


Anybody else got one of these?

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Dont worry J, there will be others. :wink:


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:30 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:Anybody else got one of these?

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Quite a few other early/late 1st print copies owned by members on the board. Not sure how many are with box and in "good" condition though, fwiw.
Never know. You might get a PM but I'd set a mental price limit now, if I were you!

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:32 pm 
 

Adam Shultz wrote:The sky seems to be the limit for this stuff. What is the next step? Enter the newly minted millinonaires during the next dramatic economic growth?

Hmm... is <creep> reading this? :?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:42 pm 
 

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Blackmoor wrote:Anybody else got one of these?

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Quite a few other early/late 1st print copies owned by members on the board. Not sure how many are with box and in "good" condition though, fwiw.
Never know. You might get a PM but I'd set a mental price limit now, if I were you!

(*watches Brian tape a new hand-made flap onto his copy*)


Now that would be rather unethical. :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
{j/k}

*<waits patiently for a response to my PM :) >*


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:46 pm 
 

They are coming. Thirty-something into 40's should usher in the beginning of those fortunate and deserving in business of wealth which is difficult to spend.

Couple that where-with-all with the madness of 'having to have it' after they stumble upon ebay and sites like this and well....you know what will happen when 2 of them butt heads over an object only one of them can own.  :wink:


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Adam Shultz wrote:Couple that where-with-all with the madness of 'having to have it' after they stumble upon ebay and sites like this and well....you know what will happen when 2 of them butt heads over an object only one of them can own. :wink:

*g*. Is that excluding present company?

Don't know where exactly the focus is for that "one off" "must have" purchase. For many people that still seems to be white boxes...  :)


Would have expected that to get somewhat worse over truly unique objects, then; or even relatively rare ones (Guidon Chains, say, although they really shouldn't be).
Personally, I'd be more inclined to label some of the RJK auctions as closer to the "holy grail". Oh, but we've already had that map and Greyhawk City notes (total ~$600). Hrmm; the fun of being the underbidder :? :(

  

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:14 pm 
 

harami2000 wrote:
Blackmoor wrote:Anybody else got one of these?

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Quite a few other early/late 1st print copies owned by members on the board. Not sure how many are with box and in "good" condition though, fwiw.
Never know. You might get a PM but I'd set a mental price limit now, if I were you!

(*watches Brian tape a new hand-made flap onto his copy*)


Thanks for the keeping hope alive.  Wait a minute I am 30 something going on 40, does that mean.............. 8O  8O


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:25 pm 
 

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Adam Shultz wrote:Couple that where-with-all with the madness of 'having to have it' after they stumble upon ebay and sites like this and well....you know what will happen when 2 of them butt heads over an object only one of them can own. :wink:

*g*. Is that excluding present company?


I wouldn't know for sure about what personal holdings others might have. Bidding patterns surely let you know who is wearing the pants amongst present company. Or maybe they just have a couple of credit cards in them pants.

Unique items don't personally interest me as the value of such items cannot be reinforced with the sale of other like items. Kuntz map of yesterday, driven by the hype of a group of Kuntz auctions, could be worth beans sold on its own tomorrow for all we know.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:34 pm 
 

Adam Shultz wrote:
harami2000 wrote:
Adam Shultz wrote:Couple that where-with-all with the madness of 'having to have it' after they stumble upon ebay and sites like this and well....you know what will happen when 2 of them butt heads over an object only one of them can own. :wink:

*g*. Is that excluding present company?


I wouldn't know for sure about what personal holdings others might have. Bidding patterns surely let you know who is wearing the pants amongst present company. Or maybe they just have a couple of credit cards in them pants.

Unique items don't personally interest me as the value of such items cannot be reinforced with the sale of other like items. Kuntz map of yesterday, driven by the hype of a group of Kuntz auctions, could be worth beans sold on its own tomorrow for all we know.


I dont think that would make Mike<Improvstone>  very happy to hear that. :wink:


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:37 pm 
 

Adam Shultz wrote:I wouldn't know for sure about what personal holdings others might have.

Would certainly be interested in a database for registered members to note their various holdings- possibly even "wants"- (anonymously, if desired) to get a feel for the rarity of items and spread of interests.
Not offering to code that, mind you :?

  


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:40 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:I dont think that would make Mike<Improvstone> very happy to hear that. :wink:

In that event, I think Mike's items could probably be "reinforced" by the other items he himself purchased :)
And he knows the auctions I was underbidder on... ^^

Am sure there's a degree of truth in what Adam's saying there, especially for "less interesting" unique items. (But then again, I barely paid $10 for some of those and they're still quite interesting- to me, anyhow).

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:53 pm 
 

Adam has a good point, and that is why I always steered clear of "personal" items. Even if D&D collecting falters, the published items would still have SOME intrinsic worth, but items like the RJK stuff would be very difficult to sell. Even in the market as it stands now, there would only be a very few people that were interested in and could afford them.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:10 pm 
 

A database isn't a bad idea.  In fact the Acaeum does that in a small way already by recording what has been found with the numbered tourney modules and prepubs.  But I imagine that a lot of collectors would feel uncomfortable stating the contents of their collections, not only from valuation standpoint, but from safety (or just because they are private people).  I hate to say this, but it's only a matter of time before one of us gets hit.  That's why I keep my rares at the bank.  It's makes it a PITA for research, but I live with it.  Any database, it seems to me, would have to be truly anonymous.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:32 pm 
 

As far as privacy goes, everyone is entitled to it with out question and I would never even attempt to deny anyone that.  The way the market stands today though, I would be very very surprised to hear that someones stuff was stolen out of their house and this is based on 2 major factors. First off the community itself at this point is relatively miniscule, especially in comparison to many other collecting venues. Secondly, the cost of such an operation would in almost all circumstances far outweigh any potential benefit of stealing the material in the first place. People, if given the opportunity will steal just about anything, but the effort it would take in order to plan and perform such an opperation would be far more trouble than its worth at this point versus the potential value of what could be obtained. Maybe in the future if values increase condsiderably then maybe, but from a criminal standpoint, if your looking for some quick cash you dont break into someones house looking for RPG material, they break into your house and are looking for cash/jewelry or the hold up a bank or a store. Just my $.02. :)


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:41 pm 
 

it can easily be done anonymously and confidentially. it just needs someone you can entrust with that info.

i work for a law firm and i deal with confidentiality all the time. everyone here knows that i dont banter info about and thats how you have to be.

there are plenty of folks here i would trust with the info of what i have (little but beside the point).

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