DungeonDelver wrote:Hey all...Long story short, I hit my local favorite used bookstore the other day and to my amazement, for $5 each I found a true 1st Monster Manual, with lizard logo, a 1st (not a True 1st) player's handbook and a DMG. They are all in fair condition; some fading and shelfwear; the pages inside are crisp and clean with no markings whatsoever. Huzzah!So on to the DMG.Here's the rundown:Red/Yellow striped cloth binding? Check.Textblock stitched 5/8"? Check.TSR (Wizard) Logo & Address on spine? Check.232 pp? Check."D" in "Advanced" curled over? Negative. However, the text is not centered. Another 16th of an inch or possibly less and the "D" would run off slightly.Yellow-Orange flyleaves? Check.See, this to me seems to fall somewhere in between the True 1st and 3rd alpha. It shares the features of a True 1st (red/orange cloth spine, large "ADVANCED D&D" logo almost running off the page...) and a 3rd Alpha. Maybe it's time for a "3rd gamma" now?
bclarkie wrote:DungeonDelver wrote:Hey all...Long story short, I hit my local favorite used bookstore the other day and to my amazement, for $5 each I found a true 1st Monster Manual, with lizard logo, a 1st (not a True 1st) player's handbook and a DMG. They are all in fair condition; some fading and shelfwear; the pages inside are crisp and clean with no markings whatsoever. Huzzah!So on to the DMG.Here's the rundown:Red/Yellow striped cloth binding? Check.Textblock stitched 5/8"? Check.TSR (Wizard) Logo & Address on spine? Check.232 pp? Check."D" in "Advanced" curled over? Negative. However, the text is not centered. Another 16th of an inch or possibly less and the "D" would run off slightly.Yellow-Orange flyleaves? Check.See, this to me seems to fall somewhere in between the True 1st and 3rd alpha. It shares the features of a True 1st (red/orange cloth spine, large "ADVANCED D&D" logo almost running off the page...) and a 3rd Alpha. Maybe it's time for a "3rd gamma" now? What you are loking at is not a 1st print. The reason that the D runs of the page on the 1st print is because of the fact that it is much larger than the later prints. The banner on the 1st print DMG is 2", and reduced to 1 3/4" on later prints. Additionally, check the Wizard Logo, if it were a 1st print it would be covering the wizard with the fireball's foot. If your doesnt it is not a 1st print.
DungeonDelver wrote:bclarkie wrote:What you are loking at is not a 1st print. The reason that the D runs of the page on the 1st print is because of the fact that it is much larger than the later prints. The banner on the 1st print DMG is 2", and reduced to 1 3/4" on later prints. Additionally, check the Wizard Logo, if it were a 1st print it would be covering the wizard with the fireball's foot. If your doesnt it is not a 1st print.The wizard is covering the m-u's foot.Is a scan or photo in order, folks?
bclarkie wrote:What you are loking at is not a 1st print. The reason that the D runs of the page on the 1st print is because of the fact that it is much larger than the later prints. The banner on the 1st print DMG is 2", and reduced to 1 3/4" on later prints. Additionally, check the Wizard Logo, if it were a 1st print it would be covering the wizard with the fireball's foot. If your doesnt it is not a 1st print.
DungeonDelver wrote:I'm warming up the scanner right now. Many images are comin'!
DungeonDelver wrote:It has the yellow/red cloth binding on the spine, which only the true 1st have, according to the entry here. Would that still constitute a printing anomaly? [ Image ]
Deadlord36 wrote:So is it a True 1st +/- AlphaBeta prerelease?How do you guys keep up with this stuff?
ifearyeti wrote:Is the distance from the A to the D in advanced 2"?If so, then the font size is the same as other first prints. I think that it is the position of the yellow banner on the book that pulls the D onto the cover. I'll guess that it is a variation within a print and not a seperate printing.
DungeonDelver wrote:ONE-OF-A-KIND
johnhuck wrote:DungeonDelver wrote:ONE-OF-A-KINDAfraid not. My T1st is exactly the same.I've been meaning to mention it for a while. But just assumed that the "D" could run off the page to varying degrees dependent on the batch printed. And we got one of those which were better aligned.Any other thoughts?
