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Post Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:42 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:I think that makes #666...RPGNow...the Anti-Christ.


Isn't he the guy who sells all the PDF modules  8O
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Post Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:44 am 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Was Quag Keep any good?


For the time it was written and the age I read at I would say yes. It is a book I have been afraid to read again for fear that it will not have aged well. I remember reading it right after I started gaming and loving it. I had just made the transition from hard sci-fi to fantasy at that time as well thans to the LotR so that had an affect as well.


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:37 am 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:Was Quag Keep any good?


    Andre Norton's Quag Keep dates from the era when role-playing games themselves were an interesting new idea (like Ronna Jaffe's Mazes and Monsters was also a cash in on the idea...although her's was more noxious).

    The short answer is:  No

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:10 pm 
 

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Deadlord36 wrote:Was Quag Keep any good?

Andre Norton's Quag Keep dates from the era when role-playing games themselves were an interesting new idea (like Ronna Jaffe's Mazes and Monsters was also a cash in on the idea...although her's was more noxious).
The short answer is: No
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I'll defend part-way at least.

Middling-average perhaps IIRC (especially in a modern context), but Andre had no need to "cash in on the idea" and the D&D fan base was hardly huge at the time. Another Witch World book would probably have made her as much, if not more money.
In fact, it was Gary who tacitly or otherwise encouraged the book; being a fan of hers, he sent her the Monster Manual- and possibly others before and later?- when those came out and they presumably had a degree of correspondence: she returned the compliment by writing a Greyhawk novel.

There was a 3 year gap between Quag Keep (early 1978) and Mazes and Monsters (mid 1981) which also places the two works a large distance apart in terms of RPG writing chronology, IMHO.

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Regarding role-playing games themselves being an "interesting new idea", Arthur C. Clarke's "The City and the Stars" (1956) pre-dates EGG by a decade and a half, and leaps far ahead of Gary's thoughts on the subject even in the later 1970s.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:22 am 
 

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MShipley88 wrote:Andre Norton's Quag Keep dates from the era when role-playing games themselves were an interesting new idea (like Ronna Jaffe's Mazes and Monsters was also a cash in on the idea...although her's was more noxious).
The short answer is: No
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I'll defend part-way at least.

Middling-average perhaps IIRC (especially in a modern context), but Andre had no need to "cash in on the idea" and the D&D fan base was hardly huge at the time. Another Witch World book would probably have made her as much, if not more money.
In fact, it was Gary who tacitly or otherwise encouraged the book; being a fan of hers, he sent her the Monster Manual- and possibly others before and later?- when those came out and they presumably had a degree of correspondence: she returned the compliment by writing a Greyhawk novel.

There was a 3 year gap between Quag Keep (early 1978) and Mazes and Monsters (mid 1981) which also places the two works a large distance apart in terms of RPG writing chronology, IMHO.

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Regarding role-playing games themselves being an "interesting new idea", Arthur C. Clarke's "The City and the Stars" (1956) pre-dates EGG by a decade and a half, and leaps far ahead of Gary's thoughts on the subject even in the later 1970s.


   Well, then simply edit my answer to....No.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:33 am 
 

I have a stupid question and rather than create a new thread, I decided to put this here.   The old TSR game Metamorphisi Alpha, did this come in a box set or was it a stand alone booklet??  Any help would be much appreciated. :)


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:55 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:I have a stupid question and rather than create a new thread, I decided to put this here. The old TSR game Metamorphisi Alpha, did this come in a box set or was it a stand alone booklet?? Any help would be much appreciated. :)

I was just a booklet. It has a tear out sheet at the back. Gamma World came as a boxed set though.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:18 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:
bclarkie wrote:I have a stupid question and rather than create a new thread, I decided to put this here. The old TSR game Metamorphisi Alpha, did this come in a box set or was it a stand alone booklet?? Any help would be much appreciated. :)

I was just a booklet. It has a tear out sheet at the back. Gamma World came as a boxed set though.


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:53 pm 
 

Am sure this has been seen, but thought to post this anyway. Having dug this out to scan, I came upon this Gygax Introduction for the Mayfair CSIO..
http://tinypic.com/k9gnkx.jpg
As you can see Gygax talks about the brown boxes (woodgrain) stick on labels, and a handful of reference sheets, etc...

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:34 pm 
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Whatever...............


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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:43 pm 
 

congrats to jeff and stephen on winning them character archaics!!!

was very tempted to go for one of them, but i am just in the midst of spending my $ so good one to the both of you :)

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:44 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Whatever...............


8O  8O  8O

awww man!

hey BC when i was watching that, i saw you were winning it, which was why i was oriignally leaving it alone.

bummer man :(

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:44 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:congrats to jeff and stephen on winning them character archaics!!!

was very tempted to go for one of them, but i am just in the midst of spending my $ so good one to the both of you :)

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I dont even know why I waste my time. I mean shit, why bother buying one when you can buy them all, right. :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:16 am 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:41 am 
 

Plaag wrote:Am sure this has been seen, but thought to post this anyway. Having dug this out to scan, I came upon this Gygax Introduction for the Mayfair CSIO..
http://tinypic.com/k9gnkx.jpg
As you can see Gygax talks about the brown boxes (woodgrain) stick on labels, and a handful of reference sheets, etc...

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Thanks for that post, Shane.  It's interesting that Gygax says "City-State was the first approved "module" for the D&D game system, in practical terms".

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:42 pm 
 

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Plaag wrote:Am sure this has been seen, but thought to post this anyway. Having dug this out to scan, I came upon this Gygax Introduction for the Mayfair CSIO..
http://tinypic.com/k9gnkx.jpg
As you can see Gygax talks about the brown boxes (woodgrain) stick on labels, and a handful of reference sheets, etc...
ShaneG.

Thanks for that post, Shane. It's interesting that Gygax says "City-State was the first approved "module" for the D&D game system, in practical terms".

Interesting, Shane. Thanks.
Never had the "pleasure" of owning that one ;)

The printing numbers and dates quoted appear highly inconsistent and unreliable compared with other data. Printing figures certainly appear inflated to make up the fact that a large number of rules sets in circulation early-on were photocopies. (EGG appears to be stating there were ~10,000 woodgrain sets printed :)).
In one sentence "maybe 12,000 sets as of January 1976", in another "10,000 or so Gamemasters in 1977". Who culled the earlier ones? :D
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Very vague on the start date for JG, too; "some time in 1976, if I recall" :P
Memories fade... :(

Yeah, Stephen, interesting quote re. first "module".
Can understand why that might be promoted in the context of this being a CSIO re-release, but conveniently airbrushes out other people who were apparently never paid for their publications distributed via TSR... :?

Don't believe everything you read... but still gives a good flavor, despite those flaws.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:40 pm 
 

I can't believe this slipped through for only $.01:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Granted the shipping cost was absolutely absurd, but geez $0.01. 8O  Is there anyone else out there who forgot to bid on this or did did it just slip through the cracks or is there just that much indifference to Battlesystem now. :P


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:13 pm 
 

<pulls this down out of the Interesting items on EBay thread so Foul doesn't kill us :twisted: >


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Old Milwaukee, Milwaukee's Best, Grainbelt, you name it, if it was under $10 a case, we drank it....


Ain't that the truth. Christ they could have put anti-freeze in cans and called it penzoil lite and if it was cheap we would have drank it. :P


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:14 pm 
 

faro wrote:(January 1974, my foot... ^^ ).


Not to mention there were 1000 copies of the 1st print woody produced, but "By January 1975, there were perhaps 2000 or so of those brown boxes...in the hands of Players", while the printing date of the 2nd print was Jan. 75.  

Probably just poor memory, but a little sloppy as well.  Nonetheless, he obvioulsy wasn't writing that essay with an eye toward anyone's research interests.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:31 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:I can't believe this slipped through for only $.01:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Granted the shipping cost was absolutely absurd, but geez $0.01. 8O Is there anyone else out there who forgot to bid on this or did did it just slip through the cracks or is there just that much indifference to Battlesystem now. :P


I had it bookmarked but in the end I just deleted it, just didn't need/want another one in SW.

  
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