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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:20 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:are there any other monsters like that?



seems really strange that it hasnt even been thought through at all....



it may well be fantasy, but surely somewhere, there has to be a hint of realism, in the sense that there has to be some common-sense in how something is "made up".




Honestly, this isn't a dig at 3e, but what do the apellations "Dire" and "Fiendish" mean when stuck in front of the description of an otherwise standard D&D monster?  I read a lot of the modules but have never bothered to read the 3e Monster Manual to find out.



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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:22 pm 
 

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Honestly, this isn't a dig at 3e, but what do the apellations "Dire" and "Fiendish" mean when stuck in front of the description of an otherwise standard D&D monster? I read a lot of the modules but have never bothered to read the 3e Monster Manual to find out.



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dire prb means they pull a better face and fiendish is prb where they stick on bigger teeth or something. either way they can add a few HD on and that sorta thing :D



  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:41 pm 
 

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killjoy32 wrote:are there any other monsters like that?



seems really strange that it hasnt even been thought through at all....



it may well be fantasy, but surely somewhere, there has to be a hint of realism, in the sense that there has to be some common-sense in how something is "made up".




Honestly, this isn't a dig at 3e, but what do the apellations "Dire" and "Fiendish" mean when stuck in front of the description of an otherwise standard D&D monster? I read a lot of the modules but have never bothered to read the 3e Monster Manual to find out.



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Dire and Fiendish are templates that make the monsters larger and meaner.  For example Fiendish give damage reduction, smite good one per day and a few other abilities.  Monsters in 3.5 ed are not always as they seem.



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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:06 pm 
 

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Dire and Fiendish are templates that make the monsters larger and meaner. For example Fiendish give damage reduction, smite good one per day and a few other abilities. Monsters in 3.5 ed are not always as they seem.



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so we would have like fiendish butterflies and dire shrews? :D



seems a little daft to me



  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:13 pm 
 

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Dire and Fiendish are templates that make the monsters larger and meaner. For example Fiendish give damage reduction, smite good one per day and a few other abilities. Monsters in 3.5 ed are not always as they seem.



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so we would have like fiendish butterflies and dire shrews? :D



seems a little daft to me


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:18 pm 
 

or a fiendish caterpillar, or a dire ladybird...



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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:20 pm 
 

Or a Dire Kitten of Speed. That reminds me.. Does anyone have either Vorpal Kitty or Aerial Servant from Ral Partha?


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:28 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Or a Dire Kitten of Speed. That reminds me.. Does anyone have either Vorpal Kitty or Aerial Servant from Ral Partha?




Man you guys just never stop :?



Only certain creatures can use the fiendish or Dire template, you know creatures that make sense.  Dire Bear etc.



SOmeday give 3.5 a try, it is a good game.



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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:20 pm 
 

A Dire Maggot. I have always wanted one as a steed for my character, who is an oversized fighter who never tells the truth. A Dire Liar.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:24 pm 
 

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You know your lead figs, Blackie. Do you remember Vorpal Kitty and Aerial Servant by RalPartha. Aerial Servant was like a ghost carying a tray, with a bow tie, like a butler. Vorpal Kitty looked like a rat sitting on a cow pat. Those have been on my list of must have figs, along with Ral Partha's Skin Gollum and Evil Lord of Litter 01-084, for almost 10 years. I just can't find them anywhere.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:44 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Just the man.



You know your lead figs, Blackie. Do you remember Vorpal Kitty and Aerial Servant by RalPartha. Aerial Servant was like a ghost carying a tray, with a bow tie, like a butler. Vorpal Kitty looked like a rat sitting on a cow pat. Those have been on my list of must have figs, along with Ral Partha's Skin Gollum and Evil Lord of Litter 01-084, for almost 10 years. I just can't find them anywhere.




I do not have any of those, I try and stick only to the licensed stuff by TSR although I do have lots of others as well.



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Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:18 am 
 

Wording from a current auction....



"No Reserve. Shipping method will be up to buyer with the cost to be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible, plus a $3 fee for handling. I DO NOT believe in making excess money off shipping charges for selling auction goods = )"



Question #1 - Why will it be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible? Its not like there are price points for what they can charge is it?



Comment #1 - I guess they reserve the making of excess money for the handling fee!


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:57 am 
 

Marlith wrote:Wording from a current auction....



"No Reserve. Shipping method will be up to buyer with the cost to be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible, plus a $3 fee for handling. I DO NOT believe in making excess money off shipping charges for selling auction goods = )"



Question #1 - Why will it be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible? Its not like there are price points for what they can charge is it?



Comment #1 - I guess they reserve the making of excess money for the handling fee!


Well, the $3 handling charge is just plain wrong.  Your time just isn't worth that much.  But I state something similar in my auctions -- "Shipping will be at cost".  I include the cost of packing materials as part of that cost.  In short, you pay what I pay to send it.  



However, sometimes it is very difficult to determine the precise shipping cost before you take it to the post office.  (And you never send it to the Post Office before the money arrives, right?) They have funny obscure rules, at least my post office does.  It seems to vary by who's at the counter.  So I just take a guess at the shipping when I place the auction, and if I'm way over, I'll refund the money.  If I'm under, I'll eat that cost and learn a bit for next time.

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:16 am 
 

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Marlith wrote:Wording from a current auction....



"No Reserve. Shipping method will be up to buyer with the cost to be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible, plus a $3 fee for handling. I DO NOT believe in making excess money off shipping charges for selling auction goods = )"



Question #1 - Why will it be as close to the actual shipping charge as possible? Its not like there are price points for what they can charge is it?



Comment #1 - I guess they reserve the making of excess money for the handling fee!


Well, the $3 handling charge is just plain wrong. Your time just isn't worth that much. But I state something similar in my auctions -- "Shipping will be at cost". I include the cost of packing materials as part of that cost. In short, you pay what I pay to send it.



However, sometimes it is very difficult to determine the precise shipping cost before you take it to the post office. (And you never send it to the Post Office before the money arrives, right?) They have funny obscure rules, at least my post office does. It seems to vary by who's at the counter. So I just take a guess at the shipping when I place the auction, and if I'm way over, I'll refund the money. If I'm under, I'll eat that cost and learn a bit for next time.




The thing with the amount is that they will compute it at the end of the auction. So should they not know the exact amount. If they are using US flat rate boxes then they can say an exact amount.  If they aren't there are a number of tools on the USPS, UPS or FedEx sites that will allow you to compte the postage. I see "as close to the exact amount" as provided it sells for a price I like I won't jack you around on shipping. If they want to charge a "reasonable" handling fee then use part of that if you misquote a shipping cost.



I guess it is a mindset diffrence. My thought is that you include the cost of the packaging materials, labor etc in the initial starting price or reserve of the auction. This prevents the ever popular situation anymore of buying an item for $6 and paying $9 or more for shipping and fondling. In short I think the price of the item should be what the seller makes their money on not what they can gouge a buyer for through exaggerated shipping and handling costs.


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:24 am 
 

Deadlord36 wrote:A Dire Maggot. I have always wanted one as a steed for my character, who is an oversized fighter who never tells the truth. A Dire Liar.




My group could use a mercenary fighter to liven things up! Is he perhaps Dire Liar to Inspire and for Hire?

  

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:46 am 
 

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Deadlord36 wrote:A Dire Maggot. I have always wanted one as a steed for my character, who is an oversized fighter who never tells the truth. A Dire Liar.




My group could use a mercenary fighter to liven things up! Is he perhaps Dire Liar to Inspire and for Hire?




well we have some! A dire liar is jonb, and a fiendish liar is maxipad :)



  


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:38 pm 
 

kires1 has really entrenched themselves in geomendezds shrinked mono auctions.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:14 pm 
 

yea i noticed!  8O



  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:06 am 
 

One interesting use of the Fiendish template is in The World's Largest Dungeon.



   The presence of imprisoned supernatural beings has caused their power to leak out into everything in the dungeon.  Virtually all of the creatures are "fiendish."



   At low hit dice, the difference is basically ceremonial.  At higher hit dice the difference can be really bad.



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Post Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:27 am 
 

I can't envision ever using my copy. Too hard to convert the 3E into something useable.

I scanned thru it very quickly, but I think it has to go.


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