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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:56 pm

bclarkie wrote:Newest member to the site:

Zhowar2 ?!

He's locked his keys inside the car, apparently. Scroll down a little bit on this thread:

Getting back to normal :)

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:10 am

10 members online right now. Approaching the record of 17 set just shy of a year ago.

111 members in the last 24 hours!

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:13 am

FormCritic wrote:10 members online right now. Approaching the record of 17 set just shy of a year ago.

111 members in the last 24 hours!

Noticed a troll or two also (pulls case from fridge).

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:16 am

FormCritic wrote:10 members online right now. Approaching the record of 17 set just shy of a year ago.

111 members in the last 24 hours!

Since we don't have a chat function on Acaeum, I vote we all raid DF chat and have a party. :lol:

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:35 am

On an unrelated topic.

I recently started playing Neverwinter Nights; the at home single player version (not the on-line stuff, and not the new one, but the first one which was released several years ago). I have had it on a shelf since I was gifted the game two years ago for Christmas. I never even opened it up as I had (at first) mistakenly thought it was an on-line only game and later I was very busy with my new company.

Work has been a bit slow of late, so I have been playing it for about a month now off an on, mostly on the weekends. I like it pretty well. As and RPG one player game it has some issues, which I thought I would post inquiries about on the NWN Forum.

From the moderators there at the NWN Forum I immediately got nothing but grief; silly childish nonsensical posts that had nothing to do with my questions about NWN, or even about the NWN site itself. The only reasonable response came from one other â€˜noobie', as new posters to the site are not so affectionately referred to by the several thousand post long timers there.

I had taken issue and made calm and collected and well thought out comments in that light. It was immediately edited by the moderators as being abusive and rude. Of course that moderator happens to be one of the same idiots who were offering up posts like this:

Apparently I'm required to post in this thread, as it seems to be what I do. Keep up the good work.

Those who call themselves moderators at the NWN forum allow cursing and other profane actions and yet edit my post when I tell them the truth about not helping matters with idiotic posts.

Here is the link to that forum and my thread, asking what they obviously consider questions unworthy of anything other than idiotic responses, when all I asked for was helpful advice.

forumplanet.com/planetneverwinter/topic ... id=2007978

Please note replies 3 and 4 and those afterwards.

I also posted another question about NWN, and the response from the so called helpful moderators was about the same. And I answered a question made by another noobie in a thread he started. I was trying to be helpful with my response, unlike the so called helpful moderators. They abused his thread the same way.

Below is a post I plan to make later, but I wanted to note any ideas or thoughts some of you might have first.

In Reply To #1
The post that was edited (One of my posts) was not rude. It was truthful. If the truth hurts, then so be it, your pretended misery does not change the fact that it remains the truth.

The post I made simply pointed out your actions in posting NOTHING but gibberish and the fact that you took affront to that truthfulness further indicates your over inflated ego. You seem to feel it was rude to point out the truth,

I simply stated the fact that the only posts YOU appear able to make on this forum are to utter your topically unrelated gibberish.

You offer no advice and no help and neither were even attempted. And you freely admit that the only thing you are here for is to post something about nothingâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ and to edit any and all other posts that do not conform to your less than helpful presence here.

A forum is a place for discussing viewpoints, whether they are like minded or opposing ideas and thoughts. A forum is not a place intended to boost your ego. Debate and discussion are part of the definition of the word forum. Chat, dialog, discussion, even disagreement are what a forum Is supposed to be. My disagreements with you are that you allow no one else to do so.

Furthermore, with your free and unhindered editing of posts made by those who don't fit you're little â€˜post nothing but gibberish' clique, I recon this place is useless for what it was intended to be.

A Forum for NWN inquiries.

You all can keep this ego supporting "FORUM"............. all to yourselves. I came here to discuss NWN, not you folks (sic). (That last word was self edited by me, since it was in fact rude when I first wrote it)

I imagine this will be edited or deleted almost as soon as it gets posted..... there is no reason that I can see for any of you to be here except to stroke your own huge and mistaken egos, you are nothing but a group of useless geeks.........

Please feel free to ban me now as I feel little reason to remain here since my ego neither wants nor needs useless stroking.

Have a nice day. .........<smile>58_90</smile>

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:08 am

Aneoth wrote:I had taken issue and made calm and collected and well thought out comments in that light. It was immediately edited by the moderators as being abusive and rude. Of course that moderator happens to be one of the same idiots who were offering up posts like this:

<snip>
Yeah...I'd just leave if that's their attitude. Don't waste your breath arguing with them. Incidentally, is NWN any good? I just finished BG2.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:15 am

Hey Aneoth,

I got the same experience back in the beginning of last year with these numbnuts when I started the NWN Diamond Edition. Nothing but a bunch of wasted bandwidth. If you need any help I'll do what I can for ya. I've played all the 'Official' scenarios that have been put out for the game and now enjoy downloading old D&D modules converted to NWN. U1 and B1-9 come to mind, though there are alot of original ideas/modules for download in the NWN Vault and at other fan sites.

Also check out some of the fan site as they might/tend to have there own help section for people who rreally need help. SOme even reference the main forum as absurd and useless as we see it too.

Kosh

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:18 am

Heh, when the moderators of a forum are actually its biggest trolls, its probably best to move on to someplace else. :wink:

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:18 am

deimos3428 wrote:<snip>
Yeah...I'd just leave if that's their attitude. Don't waste your breath arguing with them. Incidentally, is NWN any good? I just finished BG2.

Once you get used to the 3.5 ed D&D it is rather fun to play. Also if you have the time and the patience you can make your own modules for others to play. There is a conversion of Q1 floating around out there that was real tough to play but alot of fun!

After Balders gate I would recommend it along with Icewind Dale 2 compilation but skip the ToEE as its engine sucks but it does hold true to the P&P module

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:21 am

I love NWN. I'm currently working my way through the Giants series, using a character I created to match one of my all-time favorite PNP characters from the old days. It's pretty cool.

One word of caution though: it can eat up a LOT of your time.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:24 am

Aneoth wrote:
From the moderators there at the NWN Forum I immediately got nothing but grief; silly childish nonsensical posts that had nothing to do with my questions about NWN, or even about the NWN site itself. The only reasonable response came from one other â€˜noobie', as new posters to the site are not so affectionately referred to by the several thousand post long timers there.

I had taken issue and made calm and collected and well thought out comments in that light. It was immediately edited by the moderators as being abusive and rude. Of course that moderator happens to be one of the same idiots who were offering up posts like this:

Aneoth;

Why are you wasting your time letting 21 year old kidz get your goat? You wouldn't bother even looking at these asshats if they were in the video store talking about how "awesome" and "kewl" NWN2 was, so why acknowledge them now. I wouldn't waste anymore time there.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:35 am

deimos3428 wrote:<snip>
Yeah...I'd just leave if that's their attitude. Don't waste your breath arguing with them. Incidentally, is NWN any good? I just finished BG2.

I never got BG2, or any of the expansions to BG1, but I really liked BG1. How is BG2? How are the expansions to BG1? I did get ToEE and yes, it sucked.

Back to your questions.
The NWN manual that comes with the game is almost completely useless as far as learning the mechanics of the NWN game. And the supposedly dedicated web site is not much better. And don't even bother wasting much time with the supposed NWN Forums. Although I did learn a couple of things from some of them. They are legion BTW.

Also, I did learn some things from the spoiler web sites that I had missed in the game. The walkthroughs are spoilers in many aspects, but helpful in others.

Once I started playing the game and learned (The hard way) some of the basics, IE Spell casting, Henchmen, and the use of various items, I could not stop playing. The prelude only teaches you so much and the manual teaches almost nothing.

BUT, I highly recommend the game NWN-1 in any case with one aside; I suggest that you begin playing the game on a Friday evening and hope that you get to a decent stopping place before Monday morning. And do not skip the Prelude and try all of the lessons in the training area. It's boring, but well done for your first lessons for this game. Otherwise when your playing later on in the game and you forget how to cast spells in battle, or how to give your henchman a healing potion, and other horrible things that will spell disaster.

As is important in any RPG computer game you should remember to SAVE OFTEN.

Save before major battles, leveling up, and selling or buying high priced items too. I have failed to do so and regretted it on many occasions.

My last words of advice: REMEMBER to hit the Space Bar (the game pause key) as it is your best ally.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:36 am

deimos3428 wrote:Since we don't have a chat function on Acaeum, I vote we all raid DF chat and have a party.

Fun chat!

Myself, Deimos, BC, Gyg and Mars appropriated the DF chat for an all Acaeum bull session last night...
Lots of fun...we need a chat function here.
Or at least a "regular" time for the Acaeum members to raid the Dragonsfoot chat and talk in "real time".
And thanks to BC and Myspace, I think I have a new girlfriend!!!

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:46 am

Aneoth,

If you are looking for some ideas on character builds go here:

http://web1.vattnet.com/staffan/nwn1/bu ... /index.php

Just put in parameters of what you want and it spits out a list of builds and how to progress them through each level.

That is if you need it.

Do you just have the stand alone NWN or do you have the expansions too? If not then I recommend uprading to the DVD Diamond edition as it includes all the patches up to 1.67 and all the expansions up to King Maker I believe

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:56 am

Badmike wrote: And thanks to BC and Myspace, I think I have a new girlfriend!!!

Mike B.

The sister right?

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:12 pm

Kosh Vorlontay wrote:Aneoth,

If you are looking for some ideas on character builds go here:

http://web1.vattnet.com/staffan/nwn1/bu ... /index.php

Just put in parameters of what you want and it spits out a list of builds and how to progress them through each level.

That is if you need it.

Do you just have the stand alone NWN or do you have the expansions too? If not then I recommend uprading to the DVD Diamond edition as it includes all the patches up to 1.67 and all the expansions up to King Maker I believe

I have the stand alone 1.10 version that was gifted to me over 2 years ago. I have no clue how to obtain the "GOLD VERSION", or even what it is.

Just yesterday I downloaded a patch offered on the NWN web site to upgrade my copy to version 1.68. I have no clue what Kingmaker is, other than I keep seeing it everywhere that NWN is mentioned.

Character builds??????? What the heck are those?

Lookie here guys, I am a complete newbie with NWN and aside from the past month I have not played ANY RPG's on the computer at all in the past couple of years, so all this talk of gold versions, kingmakers, after market modules, and character builds simply goes over my little pea brain.

If you will just pretend that I know next to nothing about anything then you will be on the same track with me.

Thanks for the web site. I will go there and pray they have data that a complete moron can understand and use.

BTW: So far I have played a thief to 5th and then added wzard till he got to 4th. I made it to the end of Chapter 1 with that one. (Half-Elf) I was never able to defeat the boss at the end of the finale with him though., even when using the priestess as backup against all the undead.

Then I started a wizard and have made it to 10th with that PC. (Elf)

That PC is now in Chapter 2. Still single class wizard. I would like to add some weapons skills to help in hand to hand combat as this PC gets smashed too easily when the spells run out (Which at level 10 is too soon in many battles). And wands and rods only help so much and are too slow anyway.

BTW: I have to rest too much for my happiness to get spells (knock mostly) to open all the freeking locked doors and treasure chests and still cant open some without getting zapped by traps, most of which kill the PC outright. As an Elf I do see (detect) the traps for the most part so I know they are there, yet I must get past them somehow and the henchman are too smart to do it for me. I do not always want the thief henchman with me either, as he sucks against undead and as a fighter in general and a wizard has GOT to have someone in the front lines. I mean other than the monsters summoned by spells.

BTW: I learned (By accident) that I can cast fireballs (Or burning hands, or firewall) to blast or burn the chests to splinters to get whats inside, but that of course costs me a lot of resting time to get the spells back before the next battles, or doors or treasure chests.

Can a single class wizard make it through ALL of NWN?

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:40 pm

My friend has NWN platinum. I was reading the manual at his house one day. Apparently you can make some sort of lich with a skeletal claw. I bet my friend that they wouldn't change the graphic to a skeletal hand, but I lost.

One of the modules has your character starting out at level 18 so I made a guy with a skeletal hand (pale master?). He had an attack with it that sounded pretty cool. Anyways, I summoned a familiar and attacked it with my skeletal hand. It fell to the floor with crash, its lifeless corpse smoldering in blue smoke. I summoned and killed that poor familiar about twenty times, laughing hysterically as I slew it. It never got old.

That's my entire experience with NWN; very positive.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:44 pm

Yeah, it's a lot of fun to go into an inn and just attack the nearest townsperson, too. There're also some pretty hilarious dialogue options in some of the home-made mods for NWN, like in G1 when the local high-ranking town official approaches you to ask you to figure out what's behind all of the giant raids, you can choose to reply with something like:

"Get away from me before I kick your ass off my ranch".

:lol:

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