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Post Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:31 pm 
 

I've seen some piss poor football games in my time....but the Cowboys-Seahawks game just blew the doors off of all of them.  I have never seen a team give away so many opportunities than the Cowboys did tonight.  Tony Blowmo should pass on going to the pro bowl and let Jeff Garcia go in his place.  He doesnt deserve to go.

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:43 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:I've seen some piss poor football games in my time....but the Cowboys-Seahawks game just blew the doors off of all of them.  I have never seen a team give away so many opportunities than the Cowboys did tonight.  Tony Blowmo should pass on going to the pro bowl and let Jeff Garcia go in his place.  He doesnt deserve to go.

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    You must have missed the Chiefs/Colts game then.  The Chiefs went almost three quarters without a first down.  Trent Green had 2 yds passing the first half.  All that, and the Colts were barely hanging onto a lead.  The Cowboys/Seahawks game was the freaking Ice Bowl in comparison. But in how many ways did Romo lose that game?  Fumbling the FG attempt, then not getting the TD while running with the ball, then not even getting the first down, then actually frikking fumbling the ball.  I'm about ready to go back to the draft to see if we can get a QB and stick Romo back on the bench as backup. Honestly, you are right, he should give up his spot, Romo played like a retarded Tommy Maddox the last three games.
  And what the hell is wrong with Tony Romo's hands? What an idiot.  Is he sticking them so far up Carrie Underwood that they are still slicked up when he's out on the field?  Sheesh.  Cowboys really didn't deserve to win.  I predict the Hawks will lose by three TDs to either the Bears or Saints, whoever gets the honor of a cheap easy win next week.  I'm debating whether to even watch tomorrow's wild card games on the off chance they blow as much as these two did.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:06 am 
 

Philly shouldn't disappoint, the Jets/Pats eh who knows..course don't forget about the Ohio and Florida as the late game (at least that game should be interesting.)

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:12 am 
 

Plaag wrote:Philly shouldn't disappoint, the Jets/Pats eh who knows..course don't forget about the Ohio and Florida as the late game (at least that game should be interesting.)

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The Eagles might win by 20. The Giants are pathetic.  The Jets/Pats might be the most interesting game of the entire weekend.  Hell, the college championship might be the most professionally played game of them all when it's done...

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:58 am 
 

This is shaping up to be a difficult NFL playoff for me....

Seahawks versus the Cowboys....my two teams...I had to cheer for the Cowboys.

I really hate the eagles.  I refuse to even capitalize their name.  I even try to avoid things like philly cheese steak sandwiches.  (It is no coincidence that philadelphia is the only NFL team with a jail and courtroom built right into their stadium....)

But...the eagles have the most interesting story in the NFC and I am finding it hard not to cheer for them against the remaining NFC teams.

I just don't buy the feel-good New Orleans thing....

I will not be able to tolerate another decade of talk about the Bears....

That leaves me with my only possible winning scenario...an AFC Super Bowl champion....figuring that the Seahawks are laughable as a contender at the moment.

So, I guess my hope for a good scenario is a Bears Super Bowl loss (yuk yuk!) or (really good)....the eagles go to the Super Bowl and lose to the San Diego Chargers on a series of intensely frustrating bad calls.



The Cowboys were never a legitimate Super Bowl team anyway.  They barely deserved to be in the playoffs....Romo or not.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:31 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:This is shaping up to be a difficult NFL playoff for me....

Seahawks versus the Cowboys....my two teams...I had to cheer for the Cowboys.

I really hate the eagles.  I refuse to even capitalize their name.  I even try to avoid things like philly cheese steak sandwiches.  (It is no coincidence that philadelphia is the only NFL team with a jail and courtroom built right into their stadium....)

But...the eagles have the most interesting story in the NFC and I am finding it hard not to cheer for them against the remaining NFC teams.

I just don't buy the feel-good New Orleans thing....

I will not be able to tolerate another decade of talk about the Bears....

That leaves me with my only possible winning scenario...an AFC Super Bowl champion....figuring that the Seahawks are laughable as a contender at the moment.

So, I guess my hope for a good scenario is a Bears Super Bowl loss (yuk yuk!) or (really good)....the eagles go to the Super Bowl and lose to the San Diego Chargers on a series of intensely frustrating bad calls.



The Cowboys were never a legitimate Super Bowl team anyway.  They barely deserved to be in the playoffs....Romo or not.


Cowboys certainly didn't enter on a roll...realistically they are a season away at least, Romo has a lot of pro football still to learn (especially the part about not dropping the snap for the FG...)
 Seeing as the Seahawks are one fumbled hold away from oblivion, I can't think they will win this week.  I detest the Eagles. The Bears are the original nude Emperor.  So, it's the Saints in the NFC hopefully.  In the AFC, I'm going Chargers all the way.  Tomlinson is from my college (TCU), and Rivers is a really good story (dumped by the Giants for the rights to Eli "Wah Wah" Manning, having to play behind Drew Brees, etc).  The Pats don't deserve another Superbowl, the Ravens are as exciting to watch as clothes drying (although I do hold a good thought for McNair after being treated like trash by the Titans), and the Colts are an overrated joke. Plus, the added joy of a Saints/Chargers Superbowl, one team who has never had a ring will get one, and TV execs all over america will commit suicide en mass with two small market teams making it to the big game (don't you know when BOTH New York teams lost yesterday there was several suicide attempts right there by the higher ups in TV land).

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:40 pm 
 

Yes, it's going to be Chargers - Saints, and it's going to be a hell of a great Super Bowl.

I'm LOVING the Eagles right now, mainly because of Garcia, though I've always been a fan.  But there's no way in hell they're going to come close to beating the Saints.  Doesn't really matter who the NFC sends anyway, because the Chargers are unstoppable.  

Back when I was a youngster, I was a big Broncos fan, and always hated but admired the Chargers (Dan Fouts and that running back with the weird goggles...what was his name, Muncie?, the great receivers, etc.).  Now that the Broncos have put that inane girly-boy Cutler in for Plummer, I'm choking in disgust.  Go Chargers!


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:06 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Yes, it's going to be Chargers - Saints, and it's going to be a hell of a great Super Bowl.

I'm LOVING the Eagles right now, mainly because of Garcia, though I've always been a fan.  But there's no way in hell they're going to come close to beating the Saints.  Doesn't really matter who the NFC sends anyway, because the Chargers are unstoppable.  

Back when I was a youngster, I was a big Broncos fan, and always hated but admired the Chargers (Dan Fouts and that running back with the weird goggles...what was his name, Muncie?, the great receivers, etc.).  Now that the Broncos have put that inane girly-boy Cutler in for Plummer, I'm choking in disgust.  Go Chargers!


As much as I absolutely hate it say it, I would not count out Baltimore.  I freaking hat the Criminals, I mean the Ravens, but with that defense they are capable of beating anyone.  Before everyone crowns the Chargers,  I think a few factors also need to be taken into consideration:

 1) Not to take anything away from LaDainian Tomlinson as he had a fantastic season, but look at his numbers(both this year and in the past) agains stout defenses.  The two toughest defenses he facd this ear were the Steelers and the Ravens.  His numbers against those two defenses were not that good. On Oct 1 versus the Ravens he went 26 rushes for 98 yards with a 3.8 avg and no touchdowns(mixed in with that was one run of 29 yards, which if you eliminate brings him down to a total 69 yards and an avg of 2.76 yards per carry) and he has 1 reception for 7 yards and no TDs.  the following week against the Steelers he had 13 carries for 36 yards with a 2.8 average(one of which was actually a 12 yard run  which if you take away leaves you with 12 carries for 24 yards and a 2 yard per carry average) and 8 catches for 34 yards and No TDs.   These are not exactly barn burning numbers.   (Aside, the guy who really killed the Steelers that game was Michael Turner.)

2)  Philip Rivers is both still in his first year starting as quarterback and he has also yet to play in a single playoff game yet. That does not necessarily translate into a definte bad result, although more times than not it doesn't bode very well.  On top of that, Rivers has not looked particularly good towards the end of the season with his passing numbers and he also seems to have developed a case of the fumbles (4 in his last five games to go along with 3 picks).  They have been lucky so far to have not lost most of them(lost only 1 of the 4), but if some of those balls roll the wrong way, things could defintiely go bad for them.

 3)  Marty Schottenheimer.  I have nothing against him and I believe that he is a great coach, perhaps one of the best ever, but his post season numbers are not good at all at 5-12.   Once again that is not saying that the Chargers are doomed to failure because of this and perhaps with a bounce or two that his record doesn't look a lot better than it is, but I think that it is something that does need to be factored in as the games are played.

Saying all of that, I would still say that the Chargers are the favorites, but I would not hand them the Lombardi Trophy just yet.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:23 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Yes, it's going to be Chargers - Saints, and it's going to be a hell of a great Super Bowl.

I'm LOVING the Eagles right now, mainly because of Garcia, though I've always been a fan.  But there's no way in hell they're going to come close to beating the Saints.  Doesn't really matter who the NFC sends anyway, because the Chargers are unstoppable.  

Back when I was a youngster, I was a big Broncos fan, and always hated but admired the Chargers (Dan Fouts and that running back with the weird goggles...what was his name, Muncie?, the great receivers, etc.).  Now that the Broncos have put that inane girly-boy Cutler in for Plummer, I'm choking in disgust.  Go Chargers!


You have to give props to Garcia...he's just raised his value immensely, and showed he can still start in this league.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:29 pm 
 

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As much as I absolutely hate it say it, I would not count out Baltimore.  I freaking hat the Criminals, I mean the Ravens, but with that defense they are capable of beating anyone.  Before everyone crowns the Chargers,  I think a few factors also need to be taken into consideration:

 1) Not to take anything away from LaDainian Tomlinson as he had a fantastic season, but look at his numbers(both this year and in the past) agains stout defenses.  The two toughest defenses he facd this ear were the Steelers and the Ravens.  His numbers against those two defenses were not that good. On Oct 1 versus the Ravens he went 26 rushes for 98 yards with a 3.8 avg and no touchdowns(mixed in with that was one run of 29 yards, which if you eliminate brings him down to a total 69 yards and an avg of 2.76 yards per carry) and he has 1 reception for 7 yards and no TDs.  the following week against the Steelers he had 13 carries for 36 yards with a 2.8 average(one of which was actually a 12 yard run  which if you take away leaves you with 12 carries for 24 yards and a 2 yard per carry average) and 8 catches for 34 yards and No TDs.   These are not exactly barn burning numbers.   (Aside, the guy who really killed the Steelers that game was Michael Turner.)

2)  Philip Rivers is both still in his first year starting as quarterback and he has also yet to play in a single playoff game yet. That does not necessarily translate into a definte bad result, although more times than not it doesn't bode very well.  On top of that, Rivers has not looked particularly good towards the end of the season with his passing numbers and he also seems to have developed a case of the fumbles (4 in his last five games to go along with 3 picks).  They have been lucky so far to have not lost most of them(lost only 1 of the 4), but if some of those balls roll the wrong way, things could defintiely go bad for them.

 3)  Marty Schottenheimer.  I have nothing against him and I believe that he is a great coach, perhaps one of the best ever, but his post season numbers are not good at all at 5-12.   Once again that is not saying that the Chargers are doomed to failure because of this and perhaps with a bounce or two that his record doesn't look a lot better than it is, but I think that it is something that does need to be factored in as the games are played.

Saying all of that, I would still say that the Chargers are the favorites, but I would not hand them the Lombardi Trophy just yet.  :wink:


I would have to say Rivers is the weak link in that chain, definitely.  It should come down to a Ravens/Chargers championship, which would be awesome.  If it weren't for their owner, who is the personification of evil, I might even give the Ravens some love.  Certainly Steve McNair deserves some after the shabby way he was treated this off season by his former team....not being allowed to work out at the facility, not being told his status for starting after they drafted Vince Young, being told he was damaged goods, etc...and all for the QB that took them to the Superbowl, while playing hurt most of the last five years.  I'd love to see McNair hoist a middle finger in the direction of Titans owner Bud Adams, the man who singelhandedly destroyed football in Houston.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:23 pm 
 

RPGnow/DrivethruRPG appear to have been hacked. Anyone who has some credit card information stored there might want to follow the link:

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:57 pm 
 

MShipley88 wrote:This is shaping up to be a difficult NFL playoff for me....

....I will not be able to tolerate another decade of talk about the Bears....




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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:49 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:45 pm 
 

dbartman wrote:Go Buckeyes!


Never thought I would root for Florida in a million years.  Can't stand the Gators much.  But after the ass-whooping that Michigan got at the hands of USC ( :x ) it makes me feel a little warmer inside knowing that Ohio State is getting their butts kicked in a game that they were supposed to win handily.  :oops:

  

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:51 pm 
 

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Never thought I would root for Florida in a million years.  Can't stand the Gators much.  But after the ass-whooping that Michigan got at the hands of USC ( :x ) it makes me feel a little warmer inside knowing that Ohio State is getting their butts kicked in a game that they were supposed to win handily.  :oops:


My God, that's a helluva ass whipping the Gators are applying.....and to think a lot of people said Florida didn't deserve to be there...

I'm sorry...just got a look at the stats...how on earth does RB like Troy Smith have negative 32 yds rushing?  How does the QB have 37 yds passing in a game they are down 4 tds?  That's just a give up, plain and simple.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:15 am 
 

It is always great to be a Florida Gator, but tonight it is particularly sweet...


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:16 am 
 

Maybe now all the "experts" can stop writing about how Michigan and Ohio State deserved to play a title-game rematch because they were "clearly the best teams in the country."

And both teams end up getting dominated in their bowl games ... it is to laugh.

College football, due mostly to personnel turnover, is a cyclical beast. Anyone with a pair of working eyes could have told you that the Big Ten was beyond weak in this particular season. And I say that as a former resident of Southeast Michigan who lived eight miles from Michigan Stadium and attended dozens of U-M sporting events altogether.

Next year, who knows? I could easily see the Big Ten bouncing back (along with, hopefully, my beloved Pac-10 :)).

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:17 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:Maybe now all the "experts" can stop writing about how Michigan and Ohio State deserved to play a title-game rematch because they were "clearly the best teams in the country."

And both teams end up getting dominated in their bowl games ... it is to laugh.

College football, due mostly to personnel turnover, is a cyclical beast. Anyone with a pair of working eyes could have told you that the Big Ten was beyond weak in this particular season. And I say that as a former resident of Southeast Michigan who lived eight miles from Michigan Stadium and attended dozens of U-M sporting events altogether.

Next year, who knows? I could easily see the Big Ten bouncing back (along with, hopefully, my beloved Pac-10 :)).


Hey PSU won....

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:20 am 
 

I should also mention that the BCS game really is a joke in more ways then one(I am fairly certain that this statement surprised no one.

With all due respect, one has does have to wonder if the game tonight would have been played 4 weeks ago, if it would have ended up in the same result.  :?


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:23 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:
Hey PSU won....

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And I was proud of Wisconsin, too ... especially since both of those wins came over SEC teams. Neither of those teams were as awful as I might have made them sound in the post above.

The rest of the conference, though? Pretty freakin' shaky. Minnesota snatching a record-setting defeat from the jaws of victory, Iowa mailing it in for the entire second half of the season, Michigan State as useful as tits on a boar, Northwestern losing to New Hampshire (and Nevada, too, in a game I actually attended).

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