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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:09 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:At the moment I am so F*%*&g mad that I don't trust myself to reply to the person. At the same time I am thinking that if I do receive their payment and ship the package that they will just chargeback on their creditcard and I'll be out of the shipping costs and items. To be fair the person has good feedback, but the attitude that they show in their last reply kind of throws me off.

The buyer is probably thinking the same thing from his perspective --- what a stubborn seller, what a rip-off on shipping, he probably will take my money and not ship the items, etc.
As an eBay seller is there any options that I have to back out of the transaction?

What has he done besides piss you off?  If he pays you, them he's held up his side of the bargain.

I get angry easily, and I've done many things that I can't take back.  Chill out; you're Canadian, so that should come naturally.   :D

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:16 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:What has he done besides piss you off?  If he pays you, them he's held up his side of the bargain.

I get angry easily, and I've done many things that I can't take back.  Chill out; you're Canadian, so that should come naturally.   :D


Thanks, my heart rate is back to normal. Guess I am just starting off on the wrong foot today. I am taking care of a parent that has alzheimers and am not having an easy morning. This was the straw, etc. etc.  :)

I'll give the buyer the benefit of the doubt.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:21 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:What has he done besides piss you off?  If he pays you, them he's held up his side of the bargain.

I get angry easily, and I've done many things that I can't take back.  Chill out; you're Canadian, so that should come naturally.   :D


I dont think there is much you can do to back out of the sale except just not send him the items, refund his money, and take a negative which you probably dont want to do.  I guess you could send him a reply asking if he wanted out of the transaction or not and see if he accepts it.

Regardless if the buyer fulfills his side of the bargain or not he is a dick for getting bent out of shape after getting the seller's reply.  It is the seller's prerogative to change the details of the transaction to suit the buyer if he so chooses.  But if not, doesnt give the buyer the right to complain about it.  He read the auction description and bid on the items.  If he doesnt like the terms he shouldnt have bid.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:47 am 
 

Probably a silly question, but why not just sell him the 3 mags that he wanted for the final auction price listed so you can save him some shipping? Then you could just relist the other nine mags left in a new auction.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:04 am 
 

thehiddenone wrote:Probably a silly question, but why not just sell him the 3 mags that he wanted for the final auction price listed so you can save him some shipping? Then you could just relist the other nine mags left in a new auction.


The buyer needs nine magazines...not three.  Regardless, if Jason were to do that then he would be stuck with three magazines and either have to relist them or throw them away.

It would be like going into McDonalds, asking for them to take the pickles off of your Big Mac and then wanting a discount for it.   :roll:

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:09 am 
 

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The buyer needs nine magazines...not three.  Regardless, if Jason were to do that then he would be stuck with three magazines and either have to relist them or throw them away.

It would be like going into McDonalds, asking for them to take the pickles off of your Big Mac and then wanting a discount for it.   :roll:


Okay nine mags.  The fact is if the buyer doesnt want the three mags.  :? Why cant the seller in question not ship the 3 mags that the buyer doesn't want, so that the buyer gets a slightly cheaper shipping price.  I fail to see where that is asking for a discount from the auction total. :roll:  If the seller in this case also doesnt want the mags, have him throw them away if he doesnt want to relist them on ebay.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:33 am 
 

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Okay nine mags.  The fact is if the buyer doesnt want the three mags.  :? Why cant the seller in question not ship the 3 mags that the buyer doesn't want, so that the buyer gets a slightly cheaper shipping price.  I fail to see where that is asking for a discount from the auction total. :roll:  If the seller in this case also doesnt want the mags, have him throw them away if he doesnt want to relist them on ebay.


The original listing was for 16 magazines and they don't want 3 so the total that they want is 13 magazines. The weight of the package for all items is 2.5 kg. 3 magazines will reduce that, but it will still be above 2 kg and with the prices of Canada Post the reduction would be insignificant.

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** expired eBay auction **


As far as I know, my eBay fees that I will be charged is based on the total sale and is not for any discounts that I might choose to give the buyer after the sale is closed. I listed these things as a lot and asked international buyers to contact me before bidding so I could furnish them with a shipping quote.

If you had a lot of modules you were selling would you allow the winner of the auction to pick and choose a few of the items from the lot and then have to relist the rest of them?

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:38 am 
 

thehiddenone wrote:

Okay nine mags.  The fact is if the buyer doesnt want the three mags.  :? Why cant the seller in question not ship the 3 mags that the buyer doesn't want, so that the buyer gets a slightly cheaper shipping price.  I fail to see where that is asking for a discount from the auction total. :roll:  If the seller in this case also doesnt want the mags, have him throw them away if he doesnt want to relist them on ebay.


For me this is about principle.  If he wanted to ask questions about getting a discount, the buyer should have asked before the auction had ended...not after.  Then if he didnt like the answer he just doesnt bid.

This is pretty much standard for all Ebay auctions and most sellers will state to ask questions before bidding to avoid these issues.  If they dont it should be implied.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:39 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:
If you had a lot of modules you were selling would you allow the winner of the auction to pick and choose a few of the items from the lot and then have to relist the rest of them?

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Absolutely.  Why wouldn't you? The second auction listing would allow you to make even more money then the first one would all by itself.  Above and beyond the fact that it is good customer service to allow the buyer to not have you ship certain items, its allowing you to again make money on items that you had already made money on in the first place.  That seems win-win to me.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:46 am 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:
For me this is about principle.  If he wanted to ask questions about getting a discount, the buyer should have asked before the auction had ended...not after.  Then if he didnt like the answer he just doesnt bid.

This is pretty much standard for all Ebay auctions and most sellers will state to ask questions before bidding to avoid these issues.  If they dont it should be implied.


The buyer is not specifically asking for a discount on the auction, he is looking to reduce the shipping cost.  Look at it this way, if a seller from Canada had up an orange b3, a lost tomoachan, a mono ghost tower of inverness, and a never before touched 1st print woodgrain set along with an encyclopedia set for a $10 buy it now. Don't you think that you would be asking the seller to not ship the encyclopedia set along with the other stuff that you wanted?  Granted my example is extreme, but it outlines the exact same case that is occuring here. I still can't understand why a seller would force a buyer to take something they don't want if it is simply saving the buyer on shipping costs. I wouldnt go for reduced auction price thing that the buyer mentioned, but as I stated above I can't think of any reason why a seller wouldn't take the deal for not shipping everything for the same auction price.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:50 am 
 

My thoughts on listing these magazines is that they constituted a run of issues from #1 to #16 inclusive. They are not all in great shape and in fact there are two or three that I would grade as poor. All of that was clearly stated and shown in pictures in the listing. However, from my perspective as a seller, the sum of the items as a "run" of issues was more attractive than breaking them up as individual items.

Individual magazines that are not first issues or special issues are about as useless to try to sell as individual Dragon magazines of the higher issue numbers that you might get lucky and sell for 25 to 50 cents per item.  :wink:

I am not trying to give a buyer a hard time, I just wish that they had asked the questions before they bid. My personal buying ethics on eBay is that if I have any questions I will ask the seller. If they do not get back to me before the auction closes I do not bid. Easy as that. These are not one of a kind items so if you are patient more will come along eventually.  :P

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:24 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:I just wish that they had asked the questions before they bid.

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Exactly the point I was trying to make.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:47 am 
 

thehiddenone wrote:
The buyer is not specifically asking for a discount on the auction, he is looking to reduce the shipping cost.  Look at it this way, if a seller from Canada had up an orange b3, a lost tomoachan, a mono ghost tower of inverness, and a never before touched 1st print woodgrain set along with an encyclopedia set for a $10 buy it now. Don't you think that you would be asking the seller to not ship the encyclopedia set along with the other stuff that you wanted?  Granted my example is extreme, but it outlines the exact same case that is occuring here. I still can't understand why a seller would force a buyer to take something they don't want if it is simply saving the buyer on shipping costs. I wouldnt go for reduced auction price thing that the buyer mentioned, but as I stated above I can't think of any reason why a seller wouldn't take the deal for not shipping everything for the same auction price.

I have to agree.  If the buyer wants you to not ship some of the lot, it's easy enough.  It costs you nothing.  If you don't want to relist the part of the lot he's asked you not to ship, throw it out!  Reduce shipping if it makes a difference.  ;)

Incidentally, you might want to investigate "Small Packet" services with Canada Post.  It is often considerably cheaper.  (It's no Media Mail, but it's something!)

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:10 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:
Incidentally, you might want to investigate "Small Packet" services with Canada Post.  It is often considerably cheaper.  (It's no Media Mail, but it's something!)


Hi Deimos,

That price I quoted the buyer was based on the Canada Post website calculator. Removing the three items does not drop the package below the 2 KG upper limit for small packets. To do that I would have to sacrifice packaging protection which I am loath to do, especially shipping to Europe.

http://www.canadapost.ca/personal/tools ... _int-e.asp

2.5 kg with the dimensions of 12.25 inches by 10 inches by 4.25 inches.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:41 pm 
 

What about splitting the package into two 1.25kg packages--any cheaper?

  

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:57 pm 
 

sleepyCO wrote:What about splitting the package into two 1.25kg packages--any cheaper?


Just did the calculation on that and it still works out to about $27.00 US per package.

Good suggestion though!

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:25 pm 
 

How many magazines would you have to take out to get a significant reduction in shipping? If you can figure that out, give the seller that option - either all or half or a quarter - his choice depending on how much shipping he wants to pay.

Your situation certainly sounds annoying. I would flat out refuse if I had already packaged the items for shipping - which I generally do before giving a shipping estimate, and can take a significant amount of time.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:46 am 
 

zhowar wrote:Your situation certainly sounds annoying. I would flat out refuse if I had already packaged the items for shipping - which I generally do before giving a shipping estimate, and can take a significant amount of time.


I already had the items packaged when I sent the buyer the invoice with the shipping price. I had been saving a box that would specifically fit that lot if it sold and if I end up breaking the lot up, I will either have to use the same box with more filler or purchase something from a shipping supplies store.  :(

They have already indicated that they would send payment through to me on Thursday. At this point I don't think I could offer anything that would make them happy about the transaction. I guess my initial reaction was caused by their attempt to negotiate for a lower price after the auction had closed. :roll:

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well tbh being in the UK, i dont get much chance to watch the US sports, but just now and then, i quite enjoy just chillin and watching the odd game. SF looked incredibly ordinary against NO. that running back (forget his name) looked pretty damn impressive.

with regards to the jets, they are really the only team i have ever liked, so have just stuck with them all down the years. its nice to see them having something of a run at last and maybe sneak in there with a chance....who knows!

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